27-08-2003 21:07									#421
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I'm waiting.....

	27-08-2003 21:45									#422
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Sorry, Darekill. I needed to get onto Poly last night to do the turn. I could not get back on.

It will not be much longer.

	03-09-2003 22:38									#423
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What good reason is this time the one for the obligatorial delay?

	03-09-2003 22:45									#424
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Yes... this is well beyond the 24-hour mark now...

	04-09-2003 01:29									#425
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I am sorry the turn has not been passed. I will get it done and gone as soon as I can get home from work. I can very likely get out early.

	04-09-2003 02:50									#426
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No problem nye, I understand that getting orders and everybody together on these orders and actually playing takes time, after all we do all have real life or at least i've been told such a thing exist.
Aggie

	09-09-2003 19:06									#427
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Turn-leader Darekill is offline for many weeks by real-life reasons.

I did turn 230 AD. But I wait a while of others responses.

	11-09-2003 08:23									#428
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We are having a little problem with getting orders(due to RL i suspect). I'll wait no later than tomorow morning though before playing. So it should be sent early tomorrow. I apologize for any inconvienience.
Aggie

	23-09-2003 19:17									#429
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....GS, are You sleeping??

	23-09-2003 19:25									#430
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I understand when a team has problems and can't play the save in 24 hours. But not even in 48 hours ?!

	23-09-2003 19:36									#431
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They are polling about whether to switch the workforce from tile 5 to 7 in Hurricane

	24-09-2003 04:11									#432
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They have to provide orders for both themselves & their vassal.

24hours x 2 = 48hours ... so they are not overly late really

	24-09-2003 04:34									#433
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There's a reason why they're taking so long so quit complaining.

	24-09-2003 04:48									#434
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quote: Originally posted by Trip There's a reason why they're taking so long so quit complaining.

I don't like the sounds of that, surely if they have finally decided to wipe out the GoW ND forces it wouldn't be taking this long. We don't have that many units to be wiped.

	24-09-2003 04:52									#435
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb I don't like the sounds of that, surely if they have finally decided to wipe out the GoW ND forces it wouldn't be taking this long. We don't have that many units to be wiped.

Actually, (since you love to do so) you can just blame it on PTW.

	24-09-2003 04:53									#436
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Actually, (since you love to do so) you can just blame it on PTW.

Its software related problems? Sheesh, not again.

	24-09-2003 04:55									#437
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Its software related problems? Sheesh, not again.

You win the golden Spearman award!

	24-09-2003 05:46									#438
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Well, if they're having a software problem, they really ought to tell everybody so we don't just sit here complaining about them holding the save with no reason

	24-09-2003 05:51									#439
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Can GS please confirm if it is a software problem.
And why they have decided to not let anyone know.

	24-09-2003 06:23									#440
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Hmm, has it been 20 turns since GS and Vox made peace perhaps? That problem certainly gave us enough trouble with the Vox-Bob "War" last time didn't it?

	24-09-2003 06:29									#441
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I hope we don't have to replay the last few turns. I don't honestly know what moves we made each turn. Trip are we talking minor glitch or are we talking "time to consider going on".
Aggie

	24-09-2003 06:36									#442
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It's a minor (but significant for GS for this turn) glitch, which shouldn't cause any major problems like the last time we had to stop the game for two weeks...

	24-09-2003 07:09									#443
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That doesnt sound like a PTW problem...it sounds like they are having dificulty in making required trades within the limited options of the game.
eg not being able to declare war to stop a trade.

That is not what I would define as a software problem.

	24-09-2003 07:23									#444
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Apologies. We have discovered a bug within PTW which made it impossible for an alternate player for GS to complete the turn earlier today (much) when he was available and to do so within the spirit of the rules for this game. More details will come later.

For now... I will get the turn done ASAP. I have something I have to tend to IRL, and then I will do the turn. It will be there when they awake in Germany (unless they get up reaaaaaaalllllyyyy early).

	24-09-2003 08:22									#445
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methinks it's the "catapults switching sides" bug

	24-09-2003 08:42									#446
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You edited. And here I had a witty retort to what you first posted.

We did find a different sort of bug though. When Sir Ralph tried to resume the turn from what I had done, he was getting different (better) results from what I got. It took him a bit to find out why, and by then he had no more time. We are now aware of the problem, and so we should make everyone else aware also.

When you change builds when the city production pop up comes at the beginning of the turn, you can consume rng values. IOW, you can get different results during combat based on what you do in the production phase.

What is really strange is that I checked into the ISDG forum before going to the GS forum. So, I already spent an hour confirming the bug with wonder initiation when I discovered that Sir Ralph had found it too with the GS save. I am not sure what he did yet, but we will let you know when we have compared notes.

	24-09-2003 09:12									#447
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RNG also gets whacked when you do diplomatic deals in SP. Don't know if it's the same in MP. In fact, pretty much everything screws up the RNG so if anyone tries to duplicate a play, do it in the same order too.

and my original post was:

methinks it's the "units are disappearing" bug

	24-09-2003 09:16									#448
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Your honesty is appreciated Nye.
Aggie

	24-09-2003 16:58									#449
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quote: Originally posted by Aggie Your honesty is appreciated Nye.

Yup!

	24-09-2003 18:22									#450
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen and my original post was: methinks it's the "units are disappearing" bug

Then why don't you correct it? Did somebody modify your post without your permission? Is the edit button disable on your browser?