12-04-2003 07:58									#1
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I am sure this has already been asked, long ago, but I need the break. So, what are your favorite wonder or secret project pics from Civ2 and AC?

From Civ2:

1. Bach's cathedral
2. Hoover Damn
3. Colossus

from AC:

1. Voice of Planet
2. the Cloning Vats
3. The Space Elevator

	12-04-2003 08:00									#2
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My favourite wonder movies are from Civ3

	12-04-2003 09:17									#3
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It's been so long since I spent time with Civ2 that I can't rightly remember, but for me, in SMAX, the two hands down winners are:

1) The Cloudbase Academy....gets the blood pumping every time!

2) The Dream Twister. Those spooky, eerie, horrible images followed by these white words, imprinted on an all black screen:

Three blind mice
Three blind mice
See how they run
See how they run.....

~Assassin's Redoubt - Final transmission



A masterpiece. Makes you reeeeally not want to know exactly what occured there, but gives you a chilling idea nonetheless.

-=Vel=-

	12-04-2003 09:28									#4
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I've mostly forgotten them, but I remember I loved the Planetary Datalinks one, maybe because of Lal's tone

Hey, why is this thread in the OT ? What are you doing to our postcount ?

	12-04-2003 09:46									#5
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This is an OT question, is it not?

Hell, I would be half-way to emperor right now if this forum colunted, but it doesn't, so I remain a Prince.

	12-04-2003 09:52									#6
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Civ2? Is that some sort of computer game then?

	12-04-2003 09:54									#7
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isn't it "Mary had a little lamb"?

Agree with above, virtual world and singularity inductor are pretty cool too

	12-04-2003 11:03									#8
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The single best wonder movie EVER created is the Hanging Gardens from Civ 2, in my opinion.

	12-04-2003 12:12									#9
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Yep....you're right....Mary had a little lamb....LOL...don't know where the blind mice came from. Lurking in the subconscious, I guess....

-=Vel=-

	12-04-2003 13:06									#10
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I don't remember any of them from SMACX

But Civ 2
1. Great Library
2. Colossus
3. Shakespeare's Theatre

	12-04-2003 13:31									#11
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In SMAC...

1. Dream Twister. For the reasons Vel mentioned.
2. Self-Aware Colony. Best CG of all the movies, length, and images from inside a futuristic colony. Also, does a very good job of conveying that feeling of being watched.
3. Cloning Vats. A whole boatload of style in this one, and an implication of an ethical question.

	12-04-2003 15:24									#12
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From Civ2: Turned off the movies.

From AC: Voice of Planet, Longevity Vaccine, Dream Twister

	12-04-2003 15:43									#13
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A lot of the live action video used in SMAC comes from a video/movie which explores the ethical issues in the world through silent documentary. I think it was called Bakura but it's been sooooo long since I've seen it....

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Smac :
I plan to live forever...
What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony...

Eternity lies ahead of us, and behind. Have you drunk your fill?

I heard the last one so many times that I can probably repeat it with the exact intonations...

	12-04-2003 16:13									#15
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in single player Hoover Dam, 'cos it meant i'd won!! in MP Leos and Mikes for the same reason!

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In SMAC:
The hunterseeker Algorithm

In CTP1 ( yes, that's right! ): the "end to all deseases" thingee.
"Mommy, what is "sick"?" just made me shead a tear. *emotional*

	12-04-2003 17:37									#17
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While on the subject, would anyone happen to know of the "stock footage" clip where they got the scenes for the cloning vats from? I know those images are out of a factory farm, and I've seen them a few times before, but I'd like to know where they originally came from.

It's been so long since I played AC that I can't really say which is my favorite. They where all really good, though. The wonder movies, back story, and just all around atmosphere was absolutely great in AC.

	12-04-2003 18:02									#18
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you probably played for the Gaians.

	12-04-2003 18:23									#19
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I think the best was The Eden Project in CTP1.

However, the Sensorium was excellent too... The perfect geek wonder

	12-04-2003 18:38									#20
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In SMAC: Cloning Vats and Dream Twister. But I also like the Weather Paradigm, maybe because it was the first one that I saw (and I got all "oooooohhhhh! this is cool!").

In Civ2: Leo's is wonderful, that catchy tune remained in my head for a long time. The Colossus and Bach's Cathedral are also wonderful.

	12-04-2003 20:28									#21
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Come on!
In AC the best is the Self-Aware Colony
WE MUST DISSENT!
That one sends me chill every time
in CIV 2 i loved Bach's Cathedral for the music
hoover dam was really cool also, made you sense achievement.
I like manhattan project, music was cool, with all the dolls and such.

	12-04-2003 20:31									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel you probably played for the Gaians.

And you probably played for the University.

Actually, I played all the factions a bit except for University, Belivers, and Spartans which never really appealed to me. Infact, I don't think I even played a single game as the University or Believers. I did try the Spartans once, though.

And I didn't play the Gaians or Peace keepers a whole lot either, actually. Most of my games where either as the Hive or Morganites.


It's kind of funny - although my real-life ideologies would fit the Gaians, they don't appeal to me at all. Maybe it is because it's too close to my real life, and sort of defeating the purpose of playing a game. It's the same in roleplaying games, too. My first character is inevitably a druid type, but I never feel comfortable playing him and can never roleplay - I always end up playing as some big stupid monster like an ogre or minotaur or something. Kind of like the Hive and Morganites, I guess.

	12-04-2003 20:59									#23
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My second favorites are:

from civ2:
Manhattan project
Adam Smith's
Pyramids

From SMAC
Self-Aware colony
Network backbone
Aesetic Virtues

	12-04-2003 21:05									#24
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Smax - Cloud Base Academy - Gotta love the fighter jockeys fight scene in the canyons.

SMAC - Network Backbone - Just 'cause I love hearing Morgan do his best Bill Gates impression

Civ2 - Leonardo's Workshop - No particular reason

Civ3 - Ummm.......... Jeez it's just so hard to pick a favorite

	12-04-2003 22:52									#25
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The live video footage ones in SMAC, especially the Cloning Vats and the Dream Twister. I also liked the minimalistic "innards of a particle accelerator" feel of the Supercollider video.

In Civ2, my favorites were the Great Library, Leonardo's Workshop, Bach's Cathedral and Women's Suffrage - all for the music.

	12-04-2003 23:16									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld It's been so long since I played AC that I can't really say which is my favorite. They where all really good, though. The wonder movies, back story, and just all around atmosphere was absolutely great in AC.

All of them? I got the impression that some of them were done really quickly and dirtily... for example, Xenoempathy Dome and Citizen's Defence Force (which was only a lot of camera runs over one still picture) and the Neural Amplifier were letdowns. A couple of the movies had a nice idea but a bad execution - for example, Hunter-Seeker Algorithm (IMO) and The Virtual World (which would have been nice otherwise but the equipment on that guy's face was just too silly).

	12-04-2003 23:18									#27
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"I think it was called Bakura but it's been sooooo long since I've seen it...."
Could it be Baraka? I've heard of that movie, but haven't seen it.

	13-04-2003 00:06									#28
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Now I am going to demonstrate pedantry...the civ2 video for Isaac Newton's College. You know where it zooms into the university city at the beginning? Well Isaac Newton was based in Cambridge...yet the video quite clearly shows Oxford (All Souls College and Radcliffe Camera quite clearly in view) Naughty, naughty...

But favourite video? Oh, has to be some of the SMAC ones...The Space Elevator or The Pholus Mutagen (I am odd like that )

	13-04-2003 01:10									#29
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Shakespeare's Theatre in Civ2.

Bonus, can anyone remember what play was used, and what was said?

	13-04-2003 01:21									#30
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Hamlet, I believe, the speech where he's holding the skull?