12-04-2003 16:59									#1
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For the past two or so days, all the smilies and other assorted icons from Apolyton have not been working.
Ironically, these very same icons work in the forum cache when the main site is down.

All we need to do now is figure out why.

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	12-04-2003 17:07									#2
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Strange... I don't seem to have any problems.

There's images all over the place

	12-04-2003 17:16									#3
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I've had no problems, its just you or your browser type.

	12-04-2003 18:17									#4
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No problems for me either. From the size of the font in your attached image, I'd guess you're using some sort of zoom feature... maybe that is the problem.

	12-04-2003 18:21									#5
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I too have not noticed any problems.

	12-04-2003 18:25									#6
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Fine for me too. In fact it's working a bit better than usual, I've been able to turn avatars back on because the site has been loading images quicker for me over the last few days.

I expect it's something you've done Skanky.

	12-04-2003 18:40									#7
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I have this problem, from time to time, also...

	12-04-2003 19:16									#8
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Fine for me too. In fact it's working a bit better than usual, I've been able to turn avatars back on because the site has been loading images quicker for me over the last few days. I expect it's something you've done Skanky.

Hehe.

Well your new avatar certainly isn't broken. What is it?

	12-04-2003 19:23									#9
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It looks like an Egyptian War Chariot defeating a Babylonian Bowman.

	12-04-2003 19:30									#10
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It's a War Chariot defeating a Persian Immortal.

You should read this thread for an explanation:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=83048

It's 150+ posts, but it'll be worth it, I promise.
Keep an eye out for Eli's avatar in particular - it's the original that mine is a reaction too.

	12-04-2003 20:12									#11
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Ohmigod that is worse than Nation States. I understand now......but I am overspammed. I will return when I recover.

* DrSpike goes to lie down.

	12-04-2003 20:25									#12
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I had the frames no in their correct place yesterday, other then that no problems

	12-04-2003 20:43									#13
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No problem at my end.

What is Eli's avatar supposed to be?

Last edited by Urban Ranger on 12-04-2003 at 20:57

	12-04-2003 22:21									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger What is Eli's avatar supposed to be?

It's a Persian Immortal from the DemoGame team he is on (Vox) killing a warrior from another DemoGame team (GS - the team I'm on) in a sneak attack. The two teams have had an uneasy alliance since the start of the game, but now war has started and one of them will be extinct in about 20-30 turns time.

My avatar is of one of our War Chariot's killing an Immortal in our counter-attack. It's especially good for us because it triggered our GA.

DemoGame's rule.

	12-04-2003 23:26									#15
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Gee, Skanky, looks like you're alone on this one ... do you hear the crickets chirping?

Gatekeeper

	13-04-2003 06:20									#16
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Well, I kind of guessed that I would be the only one having problems. They images normally work, but my DSL server have been having network problems for the past few days which has led to things like half the internet being unavailable, and images not showing up on Apolyton.

What I want to know is why the images actually did show up when I went to the forum cache, despite the fact that I am still having network problems.

Speaking of avatars, they all show up fine (except for Gatekeepers).

	13-04-2003 06:58									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Gee, Skanky, looks like you're alone on this one ... do you hear the crickets chirping? Gatekeeper

I am having intermittent image problems as well, for about a week or so.

	13-04-2003 07:24									#18
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I've been having intermittent problems but things seem to be fine now.

	13-04-2003 09:17									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns What I want to know is why the images actually did show up when I went to the forum cache, despite the fact that I am still having network problems.

Try flushing the browser's caches and restarting.

	13-04-2003 10:31									#20
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No, that didn't help. Alas.

Oh, and answering previous questions:
I don't have any zoom feature. My display is 1280x1024, normal size font. I also haven't changed anything on my system in the last week that could have caused this.

Last edited by Skanky Burns on 13-04-2003 at 10:43

	13-04-2003 21:03									#21
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Try a different browser.

	13-04-2003 22:49									#22
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Hmm ... that's strange why my avatar wouldn't show up for you, Skanky. It's one of the standard ones that 'Poly offers ... I think it's an F-15 jet fighter. (I haven't seen it in a while, having avatars disabled and all .)

Gatekeeper

	14-04-2003 00:05									#23
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hi ,

just close all your browser windows , empty cookies , history , open again and that should do it , .....

or just hit "refresh" , ....

have a nice day

	14-04-2003 09:50									#24
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It's amusing the kind of acrobatics you have to go through to get something simple like a Web browser to work like it is supposed to be. Imagine a car that behave in the same way.

	14-04-2003 11:44									#25
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Tried both of the above suggestions, they didn't work either.

The properties tab of images that don't work look something like:
"http://64.246.32.176/forums/images/smilies-xmas/uhoh.gif"
whereas pinging apolyton.net shows an IP of 64.246.32.51
I can not ping the IP address that ends with .176
Any ideas?

Last edited by Skanky Burns on 14-04-2003 at 12:33

	14-04-2003 13:26									#26
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64.246.32.176 is a secondary ip of Settler (our server)
do you have any kind of proxy or anything like that?
can you do a traceroute to 176?

	14-04-2003 15:11									#27
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code:
Tracing route to 64.246.32.176 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1 
  2   597 ms   595 ms   788 ms  172.31.17.142 
  3   279 ms   794 ms   403 ms  172.31.50.14 
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5  1665 ms  1390 ms   609 ms  fa3-0.cor2.syd2.agile.on.net [150.101.197.115] 
  6  1205 ms  1430 ms  1642 ms  fa1-0-4.bdr1.syd2.agile.on.net [150.101.197.105] 
  7  1359 ms  1407 ms  1808 ms  ATM5-1-0-7.ken11.Sydney.telstra.net [139.130.185.145] 
  8  1720 ms  1923 ms  1209 ms  GigabitEthernet10-0.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.20.1] 
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11  1892 ms  1650 ms  1539 ms  i-13-0.sjc-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.17] 
 12   631 ms  1064 ms   685 ms  202.84.143.249 
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14  1256 ms   838 ms  1480 ms  605.ge13-0.mpr2.pao1.us.mfnx.net [208.185.237.69] 
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16  1741 ms  1794 ms  1154 ms  so-0-0-0.mpr3.sjc2.us.mfnx.net [64.125.30.1] 
 17  1178 ms  1422 ms  1427 ms  pos2-0.mpr1.dfw2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.81] 
 18  1223 ms  1734 ms  1942 ms  so-3-0-0.cr1.dfw2.us.mfnx.net [216.200.127.213] 
 19  1630 ms  2177 ms  1819 ms  so-4-0-0.mpr1.iah1.us.mfnx.net [64.125.31.37] 
 20  1406 ms  1020 ms  1569 ms  216.200.251.53.ev1.com [216.200.251.53] 
 21  1144 ms  1266 ms  1856 ms  207.218.245.37 
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

code:
Tracing route to apolyton.net [64.246.32.51]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1 
  2    31 ms    32 ms    32 ms  172.31.17.142 
  3    34 ms    32 ms    32 ms  172.31.52.14 
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5    31 ms    34 ms    31 ms  fa3-0.cor2.syd2.agile.on.net [150.101.197.115] 
  6    37 ms    32 ms    34 ms  fa1-0-4.bdr1.syd2.agile.on.net [150.101.197.105] 
  7   125 ms   141 ms   138 ms  ATM5-1-0-7.ken11.Sydney.telstra.net [139.130.185.145] 
  8   155 ms   176 ms   159 ms  GigabitEthernet10-0.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.20.1] 
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11   233 ms   227 ms   225 ms  i-13-0.sjc-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.17] 
 12   236 ms   224 ms   220 ms  202.84.143.249 
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14   251 ms   236 ms   235 ms  605.ge13-0.mpr2.pao1.us.mfnx.net [208.185.237.69] 
 15   247 ms   246 ms   247 ms  pos2-0.mpr1.pao1.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.181] 
 16   253 ms   219 ms   226 ms  so-6-3-0.mpr3.sjc2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.233.141] 
 17   276 ms   266 ms   264 ms  pos2-0.mpr1.dfw2.us.mfnx.net [208.184.232.81] 
 18   259 ms   277 ms   266 ms  so-3-0-0.cr1.dfw2.us.mfnx.net [216.200.127.213] 
 19   271 ms   266 ms   275 ms  so-4-0-0.mpr1.iah1.us.mfnx.net [64.125.31.37] 
 20   252 ms   249 ms   312 ms  216.200.251.53.ev1.com [216.200.251.53] 
 21   257 ms   262 ms   253 ms  207.218.245.37 
 22   336 ms   269 ms   298 ms  settler.apolyton.net [64.246.32.51] 

	14-04-2003 15:21									#28
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interesting
i cant figure out why it would stop at that point only for you....

i'll do some checking....

	14-04-2003 15:38									#29
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No proxy or such. My router is a DSL-504 which I also use to connect to the internet.
I have made no changes to it or my computer between last week (when it was working fine) and this week.

I think the problem lies somewhere between myself and the 'Poly servers, but it is strange that one I can see fine, the other doesn't exist to me.

One quick note about the difference in seek times: I did those two tracerts at different times. Doing a fresh tracert to both servers gives near identical seek times. I still can't get to the secondary server.

	15-04-2003 00:35									#30
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If it means anything, a server between Poly and I was unresponsive from March 10th to April 12th. Only at certain times could I get an extremely lethargic connection to IP: 64.246.32.176

If it's related then...