12-04-2003 19:01									#1
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Military Intelligence

Voxian troops accounted for

Immortals
"Mo' the Morbid", Regular, that landed from a galley - DEAD
1 Veteran Immortal that landed from a galley - In Range
"Muka the Killer Hamster", "Simon the BlackPrince", "Thadeus", "???", Regular, seen in GoW's 730BC shot - En Route
"Eli the Eliminator", Veteran, seen in GoW's 710BC shot - En Route (killed Grog)
3 ??? Immortals that landed on Bob - must be En Route, we can't tell if we've already counted some/all of them

Spearmen
1 Veteran Spearman seen in GoW's shot - en route, to the mountain 1 of Dissidentville?
1 Regular Spearman on the spinebreakers - ???
1 Veteran Spearman on the spinebreaker - Guarding one of the mountain approaches to Dissidentville?
1 ??? Spearman that landed on Bob - should be passing the Isthmus now

Galleys
1 Regular Galley - offloaded two Immortals in the east near Ouch (which committed suicide).
1 Regular Galley - offloaded troops onto Bob and then retrieved them. Possibly this galley never existed and GoW are/were collaborating with Vox.

Warriors
1 Regular Warrior - most likely upgraded to Immortal by now.
1 Regular Warrior - last seen on the mountains where Ouch committed suicide.
"Tekoa the Tiger", Regular, seen in GoW's 710BC shot - will get to Dissidentville and probably upgrade next turn.

TOTALS
At least 10 Immortals left, at least 2 Veteran.
At least 4 Spearmen left, at least 1 Veteran.
At least 2 Galleys left, possibly just 1.
At least 2 Warriors (probably upgraded to Immortals) left.

Assumptions
* GoW's screenshots are genuine.

Unit names are subject to change. It's possible that Vox will change names periodically to confuse us or to throw off our estimates.

Last edited by Shiber on 13-04-2003 at 18:18

	12-04-2003 19:02									#2
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GoW's Reconnaissance Shots

I'm unsure. The first screenshot was from turn 92, right? (I mean GoW's turn 92, before Vox played their turn 92 and we played our turn 93)

Turn 92, 730 BC


Turn 93, 710 BC

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	12-04-2003 19:04									#3
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Reserved space.

Please post comments, suggestions, additions and other relevant information below.

	12-04-2003 20:24									#4
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We also saw a warrior 6 of D'ville in 730, most likely upgraded by now to Immortal

We also saw a warrior on the mountains to the east, where ouch (or whomever) committed suicide

Oh, and I think there are 4 immortals in that GoW shot, three on the road with the spear and one to the 1 on the mountain.




Again, I am disbelieving that the landing acutually occurred. I think there already is a sizable force in d'ville. We shall see, if they make their move, next turn. If they don't make their move, then they are playing into our hands.

	12-04-2003 20:38									#5
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Records updated. Could you please take a look and verify?

	13-04-2003 00:06									#6
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Do you mean 4 Spears?

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quote: Originally posted by Shiber Records updated. Could you please take a look and verify?

verify what? the two warriors are visible the turn before the war, one is in d'ville, the other is either hoofing back to vox territory to upgrade, moving a few spaces to picket or caught a ride back with that galley

and theseus is correct, that second group of immortals are spears.

	13-04-2003 00:19									#8
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Vox has a suprising number of regular immortals. Of the seven we've seen, the four from GoW and the two on the east, and the one that killed Grog, only two were vets. ( I think the grog killer was, and I know that one on the east was) and one vet spear.

So it seems to me that the first wave will be disproportionately regular, but the latter waves will be vet heavy, as evidenced by the vet spear coming from the north. the accompanying immortals were most likely upgraded from old warriors and not home grown. And we know that D'ville has a barracks, from prior communication with vox.

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If D-ville has a Barracks, why would the Warrior be heading north to upgrade?

	13-04-2003 00:39									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus If D-ville has a Barracks, why would the Warrior be heading north to upgrade?

The warrior adjacent to D'ville entered that town, I would guess.

The other moved north, as we can't see it on the latest screenshot. probably making an eliptical move to the jungle to get to d'ville to avoid the wc's. or it could have just moved to serve as a picket.

	13-04-2003 01:25									#11
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Thanks for the comments and corrections; records updated. I also updated them with the info from the 2nd shot from GoW.

By verify, I meant going over my own account to see if it's correct according to what we know (e.g. that I didn't count some units twice and missed others).

	13-04-2003 01:33									#12
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Shiber-

I see one vet immortal and one regular warrior in the latest shot not sure, but you might have missed the warrior.

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	13-04-2003 01:50									#14
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In comparison, think of what they know of us?

They know of three cities and their locations.

they know that we have at least three WCs. one worker, a few spears and swords. certainly nothing near what they are going to face in the war.

clearly the information is on our side, both through their trade of their map and the GoW galley.

In retrospect, I would have kept the units north of arashi in the city, to mask our forces rather thandeploying them several turns in advance.

	13-04-2003 03:56									#15
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I think you are counting Eli the Eliminator twice. He's the one on Grog Mountian the first shot, and then moves 3 to be the only Immortal in the second shot.

	13-04-2003 07:56									#16
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Thanks Aeson. Correcting...
Edit: actually, I'm only counting him now.

	13-04-2003 08:15									#17
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I'll add in the names of all the immortals listed when I get back home today.

	13-04-2003 17:32									#18
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Names: remember the trick I proposed in the beginning of this game, to rename units, and shuffle them around to make believe reinforcements are either thicker or thinner then they really are? Be careful to assume all your information on that, as it could also be used by Vox.

DeepO

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Of course, I posted on the previous turnthread that we shouldn't rely on names.
I was actually going to use names so it would be easier for us to refer to specific units, but then again, it might cause more confusion than it's worth.

	13-04-2003 18:06									#20
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Sorry, didn't saw it until after posting here, Shiber

DeepO

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quote: Originally posted by Shiber I was actually going to use names so it would be easier for us to refer to specific units, but then again, it might cause more confusion than it's worth.

I think you should still do it.

If nothing else it would help document where each named unit is every turn we see them, so at some point we might be able to definitively prove whether they are changing names or not.

	13-04-2003 18:19									#22
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Done. Please go over it and see if I've made any mistakes or missed something.

	13-04-2003 23:05									#23
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quote: 1 Veteran Spearman seen in GoW's shot - en route, to the mountain 1 of Dissidentville?

Our Warrior doesn't see it there. Possibly it is on the Mountain 3 from Dissidentville, but more likely it either went E to help get their Immortal wherever it is going without getting run over by WC's, or stayed in Dissidentville as a garrison.

They have been whipping, so if they want to be able to maintain growth they probably have to have a garrison at this point (maybe not at the difficulty is so low)... and they run the risk of us taking our WC's up to hit it if they leave it open.