17-03-2001 20:53									#1
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How can i disable global warming so that the earth condition dosen't change.

	18-03-2001 10:23									#2
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you need to discover an advance, nuclear fusion or something like that, once you´ve discovered it global warming won´t happen again

	17-03-2001 23:58									#3
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That's not quite correct Shaka. There is no way to disable global warming. You could get rid of the nukes by editing rules.txt but that's pretty much it. Pollution due to a high number of shields in a city will always exist. Only when you are able to build solar plants can this problem be overcome. A city with a solar plant in it produces no pollution at all. Bt hey, that means you have to build a solar plant in each and every city of your empire!

	18-03-2001 04:22									#5
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Nope, sorry, in the city I tried it on, I didn't get any pollution when I sold the recycling center, but got about 12 skull shields the next turn upon selling my mass transit.
the solar plant thing really helps, though. according to the manual solar plants actually absorb some of the ambient heat, thereby reducing the effective pollution in the world. with 50 cities with solar plants, you might be able to wage a nuclear war without fear of global warming.
Once I had a few solar plants and set to building more, I watched the warning line on the panel shrink and dissappear in the next decade or so.

of course, by the time you have solar plants, ,ost people have SDI's and nuclear war isn't much of an option.

	18-03-2001 04:30									#6
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No, no, you can't sell mass transits and recycling centers!!! These two things PLUS solar plants make pollution zero. You are correct when stating that, in addition, solar plants reduce the risk of global warming. I think you are at risk of nuclear warming when there are 8 polluted squares. Every solar plant increases this number by 0.5, so with 50 solar pants you would have to have 33 polluted squares at once for global warming to occur. Not impossible, but quite difficult.


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	18-03-2001 21:07									#7
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Hmmmm. I don't have an answer but I know I've played scenarios in which pollution was a non-factor (the WWII scenario that comes with Civ2, for example). So there must be some way to turn off the bad effects of all those smokestacks, through the rules.txt file I'm guessing.

I don't know exactly how it's done - do any of the scenario builders here know of a way?

STYOM

	18-03-2001 21:44									#8
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STYOM,

The 'pollution not a factor' button turns off industrial pollution not the one produced by nuclear weapons. There are two problems with this:
1)As you correrctly stated, this feature can only be implemented for scenarios, not for regular games.
2)Even with that button turned off, nukes will still produce skulls, which if left unattended, will end in global warming.

	19-03-2001 05:16									#10
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actually, building Solar Plants in every city makes Hoover Dam obsolete... interesting observation, I know, thanks... that doesn't mean Hoover Dam is a ****e wonder, it's just very useful only in the early modern times... later, after you got environmentalism, you can sell it umm... sell a wonder?

	19-03-2001 23:34									#11
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Don't forget that Mass Transit reduces a city's pollution created by population, not shield production. The Recycling Plant reduces pollution caused by shield production. Also, several techs (check the depths of the Great Library for the threads summarizing this) will alter the pollution factors upon discovery.

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	20-03-2001 00:03									#12
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Don't forget that the cheapest pollution control is two engineers - they can clear up any square of pollution as fast as it appears - and occasionally get a rest turn when they can do something useful ...

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	20-03-2001 21:54									#15
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Jay Bee, it's been a while since I read it myself. One I do remember for certain is that the discovery of Mass Production increases pollution - but you get the benefit of being able to build an improvement to counter it. IIRC, Industrialization, Mass Production, and one(?) other have this effect. The effects are more warning shields in the city window and a hotter beaker indicator.

And yes, I suppose population and shield production are intimitely related. But at an extreme, a size 20 city is a size 20 city - whether it produces 5 shields or 50 makes the difference.

Maybe I should dig up the details before I post...


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	21-03-2001 08:24									#18
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Thanks for the details, Thoth! That saved me a foray into the depths of the library stacks...


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	22-03-2001 00:05									#20
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I always try to build mass transit afer the sewer system, and before i build a factory (usually buying it) as i don't like to get any pollution.

I build solar plants before manufacturing plants, which ensures me no pollution.

I've also experienced a rise in pollution in cities with no Mass transit in which i built solar plants.

I'm not sure if they had factories or if i had hoover's...