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CyberGnu is offline CyberGnu
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I think your comment which is present in Mad Monk's signature was enough-you stated, I believe, that killing an Israeli settler (or as you asked for it to be clarified, soldier), was not reprehensible.

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Myths and Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict by Mitchell G. Bard

Online version:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/

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Zevico, and this is anti-semitic why?

It is clearly anti-israeli, but as long as the settler leaves the settlement and israel ends the occupation, I wish him no harm.

Your comment merely reinforces my point: when israels crimes are exposed, the first line of defense is always to scream anti-semitism.

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More than 24 hours has passed, and no reply.

Not that I expected one, of course.

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Your comment merely reinforces my point: when israels crimes are exposed, the first line of defense is always to scream anti-semitism.

BS.
- What crime dd you reveal here?
- Regarding the sig-I apologise then, although I still think that's a disgusting thing to think-you are saying their murder is okay.

CyberGnu is offline CyberGnu
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What crime dd you reveal here?


Well, as this thread showed, it si enough to merely advocate using unbiased sources for the accusations to come flying...

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- Regarding the sig-I apologise then, although I still think that's a disgusting thing to think-you are saying their murder is okay.


I think it is a disgusting thing that they are willing to be killed for land...

Look, if they were willing to leave without violence - Great! But I think they have shown pretty conclusively that they wont. And I'm not going to condemn the killing of them more than I would condemn the killing of a german soldier during ww2. I can merely express sorrow over the situation that led up to the necessity.

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I think it is a disgusting thing that they are willing to be killed for land...
Look, if they were willing to leave without violence - Great! But I think they have shown pretty conclusively that they wont.

Firstly, it doesn't matter whether they are against leaving or not. They could belong to Kach for all Israel cares, but if Israel removed the settlements, they would have to leave as well, by force if necessary (as has been shown before). That is not an excuse to kill them.
Secondly- I do not blame them for not wanting to leave in one sense; they did pay money for it, after all.
Thirdly- You are portraying this as if it were a war, settlers versus palestinians. It isn't. Settlers are civilians. That means that in a war, people are not meant to purposely target them. To compare them with a german soldier in ww2 and to state that it is a 'necessity' is ridiculous.

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I've recently read "A Peace to End All Peace" by David Fromkin which I think is a decent book as far as setting up the situation goes.

 
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