14-04-2003 07:38									#1
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I've played FF7 through twice now, but I still can't figure out what the elemental and Heal materia do.

I also consider the FF7 magic set up the best I've ever come across in role playing games. is anyone going to disagree with me?

	14-04-2003 08:35									#2
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower I've played FF7 through twice now, but I still can't figure out what the elemental and Heal materia do. I also consider the FF7 magic set up the best I've ever come across in role playing games. is anyone going to disagree with me?

heal cures poison and other ailments

elemental adds whatever magic is connected to your weapon or armor- so if you have a weapon o=o or something like that with fire and elemental, then your sword is doing fire damage each strike.

I think those are correcct answers

as far as comparing magic systems, I thiink it was one of their better ideas. Certainly better than drawing out magic from enemies in 8. how tedious and lame. or buying spells and having limited uses (1) or learning them as time goes by (many of the games)

	14-04-2003 11:38									#3
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower I've played FF7 through twice now, but I still can't figure out what the elemental and Heal materia do. I also consider the FF7 magic set up the best I've ever come across in role playing games. is anyone going to disagree with me?

I haven't beat the game in my game yet (I bought the game the day it came out to, could beat it any time, trying to get all stats 255 before I beat it (stopped playing years ago)) and I know what those do



Jon Miller

	14-04-2003 13:46									#4
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It's a long time since I played, but I'm pretty sure asleepathewheel is right.

Yes, I think it is the best magic system they've come up with so far. Very customisable.
(I like the sphere system from #10 too, but it isn't as good as Materia)

	15-04-2003 03:25									#5
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Did this game's ending piss anyone else off? Worst game ending in history imo.

	15-04-2003 03:26									#6
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yes anticlimactic for sure

	15-04-2003 03:31									#7
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel elemental adds whatever magic is connected to your weapon or armor- so if you have a weapon o=o or something like that with fire and elemental, then your sword is doing fire damage each strike.

and if you equip such a combo in armor, it provides you resistance to fire.

I liked elemental <--> poison combo in weapons

	15-04-2003 06:17									#8
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel yes anticlimactic for sure

defeating the weapons was so much more of a challenge, sephiroth was a wuss and went down easy against w-summon- knights of the round and mime from my characters

	15-04-2003 08:22									#9
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower defeating the weapons was so much more of a challenge, sephiroth was a wuss and went down easy against w-summon- knights of the round and mime from my characters

agreed

same for all the recent fantasies

wish the last boss would be the hardest, but that would probably turn off the kidies.

	15-04-2003 16:20									#10
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Loved the FF VII Materia. This was my first exposure to FF and despite the rigid storyline it was a lot of fun. FF8 draw system was a real let down after that and I'll never finish it as a result.

	15-04-2003 16:41									#11
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Espers are better.

	15-04-2003 18:42									#12
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Star Ocean 2 solves the boss-made-easy problem by adding an unlockable super-hard final boss as an option. That way, you can see if your hours of sidequests have made you tough enough to handle a boss who moves too fast to keep track of and casts a spell every 5-10 seconds. Fun!!
The problem could also be solved by making the final boss's stats depend partially on those of the player's characters.

	16-04-2003 00:15									#13
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quote: defeating the weapons was so much more of a challenge, sephiroth was a wuss and went down easy against w-summon- knights of the round and mime from my characters

while sephiroth wasn't all that tough, what I was mostly talking about was the final cutscenes. Absolutely no closure, and the second cutscene made no sense whatsoever.

	16-04-2003 22:25									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Elok The problem could also be solved by making the final boss's stats depend partially on those of the player's characters.

wasn't FF8 like that? except they did it with all the bad guys, their level increased at the same time yours did

	16-04-2003 23:18									#15
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower wasn't FF8 like that? except they did it with all the bad guys, their level increased at the same time yours did

yes, but it didn't really increase the difficulty, IMHO

	25-04-2003 10:40									#16
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FF8 tried, but the problem was that the enemies didn't level up to the same strength that you did...

and the junction system was far too easy to abuse.

100 death/pain junctioned to your weapon? pfft.