14-04-2003 18:59									#1
	Civilization II Gold - free with magazine. Enter the AD-FREE zone

For anyone interested, in Greece PC Master or PC Games (forget the name) has Civ II Gold as a free CD.

BTW Does Civ II Gold has the same aggresive stance of the AI that the Civ II Multiplayer has?


(that has got to be the 1st non OT post I've made in the last couple of years )

Maybe it needs relocating

	14-04-2003 19:14									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Paki: You could have posted this in the on topic and gotten a +1 out of it.

	14-04-2003 19:15									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

CRAP!

	14-04-2003 19:24									#4
	Tired of ads?

I'm going to buy it nevertheless.
5.9 euros is no biggie.

I'm a bit sceptical as to whether it will have any kind of manual... Propably not. Just in the CD as pdf or something.

Of course I have the original manual still. But Civ Gold has some extras.

Have started playing Civ II a bit lately. Small world, Archipelago, Arid, 3.000 years, Deity and one of the pink civs. (the last to get located on the map)

You have no idea how many times I started on the north pole (and have to walk for ages in hope of a dry land)

	14-04-2003 19:27									#5
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lucky bugger. magazines can't give away free commerical games on their disks here because of some copyright bollocks

	14-04-2003 19:38									#6
	Re: Civilization II Gold - free with magazine. Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 BTW Does Civ II Gold has the same aggresive stance of the AI that the Civ II Multiplayer has?

IIRC the gold version contains CivII multiplayer, so yes

	14-04-2003 20:13									#7
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That's funny - mine came free with an internet connection.

	14-04-2003 20:13									#8
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I see BeBro, thanks

Cockney, there are some magazines here which have a free game every month. Most are old though and arguably crappy. (The cutthroats? comes top mind. Although I don't know if it's good or bad, just old)

	14-04-2003 20:16									#9
	Increase Your PM Length

I used to buy the Brit PC Gamer (is that the title?). Those guys were funny
Funny reviews of games.

	14-04-2003 20:58									#10
	Suffering from ads?

yeah i get PC gamer on and off, had a £5 WH Smith voucher today so i got it, only PC mag i ever buy. i'd love it if they gave away a free old game every month, some of them would be shite, but i bet you find some real old gems.

	14-04-2003 21:01									#11
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From what I remember they got plenty of demos and some shareware and other stuff on their cover disks, which were interesting too.

These guys really loved what they were doing and it showed

The definition of how a games magazine should be written.

	14-04-2003 21:02									#12
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote: Originally posted by C0ckney lucky bugger. magazines can't give away free commerical games on their disks here because of some copyright bollocks

PC Gamer US has given away commercial games before. Granted they were quite old, but so is Civ II. I fail to see why it would be any different in the UK.

	14-04-2003 21:05									#13
	Suffering from ads?

thats funny, mine came free with a friend i made.

that was civ1, actually.

i legally own civ2, civ2mge, civ2fantastic worlds, civ2 test of time, CTP1, civ3, and civ3ptw.

	14-04-2003 21:17									#14
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PC gamer has given away Red Alert before as a full game. They have also given away Duke Nukem as a full game

	14-04-2003 21:27									#15
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc PC Gamer US has given away commercial games before. Granted they were quite old, but so is Civ II. I fail to see why it would be any different in the UK.

That's because during the late 80's and early 90's UK 8-bit computer magazines started to come with free (complete) games on a cassette sticked to the cover to attract buyers. A free game every month is a nice way to entice would be customers. These games were usually classics from a few years back, crappy games that are free don't help sell magazines .
Eventually ALL computergaming magazines did this and it started to spread to 16-bit magazines as well. Note that I'm talking about homecomputers (Amiga, Atari ST) not consoles. Gaming companies claimed that this would destroy the market for 16-bit games. In the end a deal with the magazine publishers was struck that they no longer would distribute 16-bit games.

	14-04-2003 22:04									#16
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yeah someone wrote in to PC gamer a while back asking why they didn't give away 'classic' games and they said it was because of some copyright thing.

but yeah PC gamer is a great mag and they do love what they are doing, their DVD edition is great value for money, as well as offering more demos, you get lots of mods and add ons for popular games and a large patch library.

	14-04-2003 22:10									#17
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Plus they don't care about ridiculing themselves in making fun and their articles are very witty.
(no I don't have a check waiting for me).

It's just a mag which you enjoy reading from start to finish. At least that's what it was 2 years ago then I stopped buying it.

For the most part Greek mags are written in a huge hurry and it shows. Apart for some real legends in the field of PC games reviews they are sloppy and boring.

BTW I once bought an american magazine about games and was bored to death! Totally "blank" writing.


Cockney do you remember in PC Gamer when they dressed in suits to arrange the best game of the PC Gamer reaeders and then started doing all kinds of stunts with the suits in front of the photo camera?

The mag is full of these things and a very funny way of writing.
Truely worth every last, err, that would be penny. The guys love what they do and do it with real talent.

	14-04-2003 22:22									#18
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I wish they did this in US.

	14-04-2003 22:24									#19
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In that american magazine they gave me the impression they didn't want to offend anybody. They were very comme il faut.

Too "serious". Games are fun, the mag should be in that spirit .

And of course most Greek mags it's like they take a looong breath write the whole article then exhale. Very fast and thus sloppy writing.

The Brit PC Gamer has quite a structure. It's not just talk talk talk whatever, like most greek onces. And they seem to have played the games a bit before writing...

	14-04-2003 22:27									#20
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no, can't say i caught that issue, i only buy it on and off, but i know the sort of thing you mean. the features are always well written and entertaining, as well as being informative.

can't say i've ever read a greek or american computer mag, so i can't really comment on that

	14-04-2003 22:37									#21
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Speaking of PC Gamer, and in times like this, get a load of this:

Once there was this game, don't remember which one that dealed with some shooting in Iraq.

The guys at the mag noticed that the player didn't suffer any penalty when shooting Iraqi civilians while he did if he shot western civilians.

They had a special column for such oddities in the mag and they even freakin' contacted besides the manufacturers of the game even the Iraqi embassy

And got all sides to the story in a nice written way.

When you love what you do you go to this sort of trouble. And it was interesting.

	14-04-2003 23:01									#22
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

quote: Originally posted by monolith94 That's funny - mine came free with an internet connection.

	14-04-2003 23:49									#23
	Suffering from ads?

PC Gamer put the full version of Duke Nukem 3D on a CD once.

	15-04-2003 01:17									#24
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney lucky bugger. magazines can't give away free commerical games on their disks here because of some copyright bollocks

it isn't a copyright problem, the reason full games aren't put on covers in the UK is that the gaming industry thinks doing so will discourage people from buying new games.

	15-04-2003 02:43									#25
	Full PM-box? Change here!

well like i said, i'm only quoting the responce given by PCG to a letter on this subject, it's not like i've done a massive ammount of research into it.

	15-04-2003 05:57									#26
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Computer Games Magazine, last year gave away Civ 1 window version on disk 131