15-04-2003 01:02									#1
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In order to get a more detailed picture about what's going on concerning SMAX ownership and participation in a possible next acdg, I'd like to ask a few questions:

1) Do you own basic SMAC: Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and have it installed? Yes or no? This may look like a stupid question, but some people did participate in this game without having SMAC.

2) Do you own SMAX: Alien Crossfire? Yes or no?

3) In a possible next acdg, would you want to play with SMAC or SMAX? I know it has been asked in a previous thread, but I'm reasking just to get all the data in one thread.

4) If we played basic SMAC, would you participate in a next ACDG? Yes or no?

5) If we played with the expansion pack SMAX, would you participate in a next ACDG? Yes or no?

Thanks for answering.

	15-04-2003 06:47									#2
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1 - Yes.

2 - Yes.

3 - SMAX.

4 - Yes.

5 - Yes.

	15-04-2003 11:07									#3
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Like the man says :

1 - Yes.

2 - Yes.

3 - SMAC.

4 - Yes.

5 - Yes.

But with a preference for SMAC. I hate some of the extra techs.

-Jam

	15-04-2003 12:37									#4
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Sorry you feel that way WoA. Going back to SMAC again is dropping from special extra add-on pack to basic game. Some of those extra things are great - the Brood Pit for Police, for example.

We've done enough with SMAC, let's go for SMAX this time. Honestly, how many here don't know SMAC and its tactics to transcendence and back? I would love to test in a Demo game environment the times that resonance armour/weapons are used over their pulse or basic analogues, and those new factions are just so much more varied than the first.

The Alien Crossfire pack adds so much to the mix - let's branch out and see what we can do with it...

	15-04-2003 14:10									#5
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Grrr, R-Lasers

-Jam

	15-04-2003 14:17									#6
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Damn, it's a dead heat now... how much longer do we have?

	15-04-2003 14:19									#7
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Well, in the event of a dead heat, I'll change and go with SMAX. I'm sure I can live with the R-Lasers if I have to.

-Jam

	15-04-2003 15:19									#8
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Yes
Yes
SMAX
Yes
Yes

	15-04-2003 15:51									#9
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Amazing. Me and Herc can agree on something.

Yes
Yes
SMAX
Yes
Yes

	15-04-2003 17:20									#10
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yes
yes
SMAX (flechette defence and pirates! )
yes
yes

	16-04-2003 01:05									#11
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Looks like I won't be participating in the next DG. This was fun though

	16-04-2003 04:43									#12
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Why have you not got SMAX Drogue. I know it's difficult to get/expensive on ebay nowadays, but there have been lots of opportunities over the past 2/3 years to get the expansion pact. Did you just come to the game that bit too late.

	16-04-2003 05:11									#13
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No, I had SMAX, but it got scratched to death, I have a new disk, but my install of SMAC was copied from my old install, and I no llonger have the SMAC disk, so cannot install the add on, without the registry files saying I have SMAC I need a new SMAC too.

	16-04-2003 05:17									#14
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i thought you could still get it in europe? doesn't softwarefirst still have it? if not, ebay is a good bet. regular stores however, i had a hard time finding it 2 years ago.

	16-04-2003 06:05									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue No, I had SMAX, but it got scratched to death, I have a new disk, but my install of SMAC was copied from my old install, and I no llonger have the SMAC disk, so cannot install the add on, without the registry files saying I have SMAC I need a new SMAC too.

Since you actually own the game, I suppose I might be able to arrange a registry hack for you to add all the registry files in.....

Failing that, an .iso of the Planetary Pack.

	16-04-2003 06:15									#16
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Thank you if you can with the registry, however IIRC the Planetary Pack will be too big to download on a 56k The regisrty will be great, and I will try to find a copy of SMAC, and then I could participate, it depends when the DG starts. I might have to come late again

	16-04-2003 08:06									#17
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Well, the problem might be in that I have the Planetary Pack and the XP/2000 Update, so my registry might not be what you need, however I could potentially identify which sections of the registry would need to be copied by someone for you.

	18-04-2003 01:42									#18
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I think it might be better if I can just find another copy of it. Thanks, but I'll need one at some point, so I might as well search for it.

	20-04-2003 01:43									#19
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1 - Yes
2 - Yes
3 - SMAC
4 - Yes
5 - Yes

	20-04-2003 01:57									#20
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1.Y
2.N
3.SMAC
4.Y
5.Y

	20-04-2003 02:08									#21
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Tuppence worth

Yes
Yes
SMAX
Yes
Yes

	20-04-2003 04:23									#22
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We should play Smax but with out the alien factions, that way we get all of the cool stuff, but no stupidity

	20-04-2003 05:55									#23
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right. the aliens really, really suck

	20-04-2003 07:00									#24
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One wonders if perhaps we should also force a seperation of some of the better players amongst the various teams. It'll hardly be a fun game for most if one team's just running roughshod over everyone.

	20-04-2003 07:33									#25
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anyways, if we do a PBEM game, i've made up the symbols for civgroups. they're 19x19 pixels, which i'm hoping is good enough (the standard size is 15x19)

	20-04-2003 19:15									#26
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When is this going to be started, shall we poll for the final adjustments? What factions will be used?

	20-04-2003 20:11									#27
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Well, I'd like to participate in this one, but seems like SMAX is winning. I don't own the expansion pack, so I wouldn't be able to join.

	20-04-2003 20:29									#28
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You can still join. MWIA has played this game without being able to access the save files IIRC. I do not have SMAX either, but will probably have some involvement still.

	20-04-2003 23:01									#29
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1-Y
2-Y
3-SMAX
4-Y
5-Y

By the by, for those interested I believe some folks have had success downloading from underdogs(abandonware) altho' there are some special steps that needs to be followed IIRC. Seems I heard of success in a thread here at 'poly. If interested I would suggest looking at soem past threads here before downloading.

	21-04-2003 06:05									#30
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I can verify that it's available for download at Home of the Underdogs. Go here: http://www.the-underdogs.org/, search for games by Firaxis, and you'll find it.