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Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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SAN CRISTOBAL DE LAS CASAS, Mexico (AP) -- An angry crowd stoned to death an Indian man accused of practicing witchcraft in a southern Mexico town with a long tradition of religious violence.

The man, Domingo Shilon Shilon, was also hacked with machetes Sunday by the crowd in San Juan Chamula, a majority Catholic township on the outskirts of the colonial city of San Cristobal, 460 miles (735 kms) southeast of Mexico City.

Shilon, 50, was caught by the crowd in a neighborhood known as Rancho Narvaez, state police said. After killing him, the crowd partially burned his body.

Shilon, like most of his alleged attackers, was a Tzotzil Indian, a branch of the Maya. The Chiapas state Justice Department said an investigation was continuing into the killing, but it is often difficult to prosecute such cases, given that witnesses are frequently unwilling to testify.

Since the 1960s, San Juan Chamula has seen numerous killings and confrontations as "traditional" Catholics -- who mix pre-Hispanic Indian rights with Roman liturgy -- battle to expel evangelical Protestants.

Witchcraft is often blamed for outbreaks of illness or the deaths of children in the impoverished Indian community, where many practice faith healing and some residents -- mainly men -- engage in so-called "white" magic.

In 1996, residents of another San Juan Chamula neighborhood beat and then hanged a man suspected of causing ailments and misfortune through witchcraft.

The villagers killed the man after they went to a cave he frequented and found bottles dressed in the local Indian garb, objects he allegedly used in casting spells on people.

Yet another example of why I'm proud to be an American.

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May 2001
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i'm glad. those damn witches have had it comming for almost 300 years.

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Sep 2002
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we got rid of all our witches long time ago.

Another good reason for stiffer immigration laws. j/k

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Oct 2002
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Stoned, hacked AND burned. They have WAY too much time on their hands.

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Nov 2001
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Religion and superstition at their best

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"Another good reason for stiffer immigration laws."

Stiffer immigrants? You, sir, are no chiropractor!!!

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Jun 2002
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i'm glad. those damn witches have had it comming for almost 300 years.


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Oct 2001
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I hate witches, I always have to take the train and the railroad station is surrounded by a large green area (I use to walk my dog there) the problem is that it is disgusting to see the rests of the Macumba ( a brazilian african cult that is now getting fashionable) rituals all around the grass, usually there are decapitated chickens with red candles and that kind of things, ugly.

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Plan Austral :
I'm almost surprised we live on the same planet. What you describe is inimaginable here nowadays. There is sure some hype for new supersticions, but I cannot even fathom seeing some ritual's remnant in a park

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A friend told me there is a list of all witches burned in our city (Zagreb) in a museum

And a story I heard, maybe someone can confirm is is an urban legend?


Supposedly, Brits burned a women during WWII for being a witch. Actually she wasn't a witch, but she had ability to predict future. Brits supposedly gotten affraid of that screwing up the war, or her falling to enemy hands or something.

So they pulled out that antique law that was till valid and burned her. All nice and legal

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I believe he was only kidding... or I hope atleast

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A friend told me there is a list of all witches burned in our city (Zagreb) in a museum

And a story I heard, maybe someone can confirm is is an urban legend?


Supposedly, Brits burned a women during WWII for being a witch. Actually she wasn't a witch, but she had ability to predict future. Brits supposedly gotten affraid of that screwing up the war, or her falling to enemy hands or something.

So they pulled out that antique law that was till valid and burned her. All nice and legal

If she could, she must have sucked at it, I mean, they got her afterall didn't they?

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Feb 2002
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Funny how so many people still can't follow their own religion correctly....the fools obviously forgot to call up the Inquisition beforehand.

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If she could, she must have sucked at it, I mean, they got her afterall didn't they?


You can't escape the Scotland Yard

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They should have poked him with the soft cushions first to force a confession.

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Plan Austral :
I'm almost surprised we live on the same planet. What you describe is inimaginable here nowadays. There is sure some hype for new supersticions, but I cannot even fathom seeing some ritual's remnant in a park


Sadly they are quite common, twice per month month at leat I end up having to watch those things when taking the train.

Last week there was a red carpet with stones in it forming a circle and candles, sometimes it doesnt include dead chickens

You dont have to think of those rituals as big rituals with lots of people, it was simply a carpet with just those things, probably done by just one person.

This things are called "trabajos", they are used for example to curse a person you hate, you can go to a witch and ask him to do a "trabajo" against x person, or if you believe someone has done a "trabajo" against you, you can ask (pay) a witch to neutralize it with another trabajo, something like that.
They usually include that kind of things, candles, sacrifices etc
I saw a documental about those things two weeks ago.

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usually there are decapitated chickens with red candles and that kind of things, ugly.

Uh, doesn't your country have animal cruelty laws against this?

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Oct 2001
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They have the right to practice their religion.





I dont know if we have that kind of laws, I mean, yes, we do have laws against animal cruelty, but you can buy a chicken and kill it , I dont believe the law cares about what you do with the corpse, whether you eat it or not.
It is very easy to decapitate a chicken, it is not particularly cruel (I am assuming you are not a vegan).

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[extreme leftist]

*mounts moral high horse*

How can yall be joking? ARe you guys sick or something? Must I remind you that some person has just died? This is sickening... I need to go smoke some weed to clear my thoughts...

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[extreme righty]

dumb sh*t...

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[centrist (me)]

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Kman

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They have the right to practice their religion.

It should be illegal for the same reason flashing is. If it's not either, you should start your own religion which includes naked hairy men masturbating in public parks. They'll get the message!

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naked hairy men masturbating in public parks


You mean, thats illegal?! ...... uh ooooh....

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