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kring
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Wichita,KS,USA
Dec 2001
time: 23:27
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Originally posted by Ned
This far in advance of 2008, it is far too early to speculate on a Republican nominee. After all, Bush himself came out of nowhere in a very short time.
It really depends on who wants it the most and who is most capable. At this point in time, I have no clue as to whom this might be. |
Unfortunately, most capable doesn't fit into either the Republicans or Democrats thinking when it comes to who they pick to run for any political office. Money, and not ability/capability, seems the big decider for both parties. The sad thing is that enough of the voters are gullible enough to fall for it. The occasional competent that does run often gets discredited by his/her own party to maintain the status quo between the two parties.
It would be interesting to see either Laura Bush/Hillary Clinton match up, or Chelsea/one of the twins.
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Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
It'll be a woman. Colin Powell isn't going to run; and no matter how many times Morgan Freeman plays the President, the fact remains that there are no black governors (and there haven't been any since Reconstruction ended in 1877), no black senators (and, I believe, only 2 since Reconstruction), and no black members of the House power structure (now that JC Watts has left). By contrast, there are 6 female governors, 14 female Senators, and the House minority leader is a woman. |
http://www.nga.org/governors/1,1169...ED_2118,00.html
Virginia elected a Black Governor back in 1990. As to which will happen first will depend on who runs. While Powell could win, he doesn't want to run last I had read. What could happen is that a Black or Woman, or a Black Woman, is elected Vice President, and then becomes President when something happens to the President (resignation, heart attack, etc). The real power in this country is the Senate and House Majority Leaders, and to a lesser degree the Senate and House Minority Leaders. They can have more real power than the President.
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...ty_senators.htm list of Minorities in the Senate:
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African Americans:
Hiram R. Revels (R-Mississippi), 1870-71
Blanche K. Bruce (R-Mississippi), 1875-1881
Edward W. Brooke (R-Massachusetts), 1967-1979
Carol Moseley-Braun (D-Illinois), 1993-1999
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Link to Women that have served in the US Senate:
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...en_senators.htm
Last edited by kring on 15-04-2003 at 23:08
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Rufus T. Firefly
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is one way of saying it, though I prefer "mensch"
Sep 2000
time: 07:27
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Originally posted by kring
Virginia elected a Black Governor back in 1990. As to which will happen first will depend on who runs. While Powell could win, he doesn't want to run last I had read. What could happen is that a Black or Woman, or a Black Woman, is elected Vice President, and then becomes President when something happens to the President (resignation, heart attack, etc). The real power in this country is the Senate and House Majority Leaders, and to a lesser degree the Senate and House Minority Leaders. They can have more real power than the President. |
Oops; I did forget about Doug Wilder. Your Senate stats support what I said -- only 2 black senators elected since Reconstruction. I think your Vice President scenario is a good bet but, again, I think we'll see a woman VP before a black one, just because there are women positioned for that slot now, but not blacks. I'd actually be surprised if the Dems don't put a woman on the ticket in 2004, and they have several plausible choices -- as do the Republicans. But there is literally no black politician with a national -- or even potentially national -- profile, except Powell.
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Edan
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Originally posted by Clear Skies
Seriously, though, I doubt Hillary'll get it. She's made too many enemies, and only just won the usually solid Senate seat for New York... |
Actually, IIRC, she won by a rather large margin (double digits, IIRC) and she won by a larger margin than the Schumer (the other NY senator) did - Of course, he was running against Damato, so it was a tougher race.
However, I don't think she will be a serious candidate in '08.
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