17-04-2003 11:33									#1
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I have started playing the few turns that our peoples wander, looking for a place that will supply them with food, shelter and beer ingredients for centuries to come.

This is the result so far....

	17-04-2003 11:40									#2
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i'm starting to dislike this map...

	17-04-2003 11:46									#3
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Well, 3750BC and this is what I've found. Thanks to HTower who was in #apolyton chatroom when I was doing this for some good ideas on movements.

The West settler still has a move....

	17-04-2003 11:51									#4
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alright, now i really don't like this map so far.

for the westernmost settler i would move him SE 1 space then build a city

for the northern settler i would move 1 space north or 1 space north east and then build a city.

which unit is it that still has a movement point left again?

	17-04-2003 13:24									#5
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It starts to look like we had a good location to build our capital on our start.
But go with HTowers directions and then we can start building explorertroops so we can take a look at ou world...btw do we pop huts or have we restricted ourselves from that to?

Shade

	17-04-2003 13:43									#6
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don't say i didn't warn you

	17-04-2003 13:48									#7
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and for the sake of news, the weather here is bloody freezing.

	17-04-2003 17:23									#8
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Mmm, that's a tricky map. Looks like coping with big swaths of similar terrain will be the order of the day.

I like the idea of popping the hut before we found... but that would cost us a couple of turns. Can we settle close to the muskox, in such a way that we could potentially access other, unseen specials that might be part of the same pattern (by moving 1 square SE and founding, for example)?

	17-04-2003 20:14									#9
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Pop the hut before settling, chances are we're getting a NON-unit

	17-04-2003 20:39									#10
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yeah, pop the hut

	17-04-2003 20:56									#11
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How about this:

West settler goes E, then pops hut, then SW, SW and founds. East Settler goes NE and founds.

Sounds OK? This seems to be the quickest way of getting the hut and founding without any overlap.

	17-04-2003 21:02									#12
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sounds ok, depending on what we find to the NE

	17-04-2003 21:04									#13
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Well, I don't know why you'd send the E Settler NE to found... why not found near the Special? At least if we build in a place that might be the middle of a 2 or 3 special pattern, we might be able to mine the grass later and get Silk or Game.

If we move NE we might find another special, and we might not.

Otherwise, I'm in favour of moving both Settlers once, popping the hut, and then founding city #1.

	18-04-2003 01:16									#14
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Once we know the resource seed from the hut, can we also find the hidden specials?

	18-04-2003 02:10									#15
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with that 1 hut, we can identify the hidden specials. Given the information we have right now from posted pictures, we can pinpoint a 4-special site using the Musk Ox (from Civ II poster) or Game (as MGE Civilopedia calls it). And as a side note, hutfinder is leading in the polls almost 2-1

	18-04-2003 06:31									#16
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Ugly-looking map

	19-04-2003 05:41									#17
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OK, fine, so we are going to find some surprises on this map. So what? We still have to play (and use) the terrain that we find. Let's get a couple of cities established, gewt some Settlers going, explore a bit to find the direction we should expand into, and get a civ built!

Dithering is just a path to losing. Grass with gold is not the worst place to start and I say let's start building our civ here. Take advantage of what the terrain offers and work things out from there.

Let the Eastern Settler move 1 square West and build a city to get us started. Let the Western Settler move 2 NE and then East a few turns to explore for good 2nd city site.

	19-04-2003 05:51									#18
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Yeah, put someone down now and the other one can wander for a couple more turns.

	19-04-2003 06:59									#19
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since the poll starter said it was to be a 3 day poll, using hutfinder we can say that (127,55) would be a 4 special site using the musk ox, and the eastern settler is on one of the hidden specials right now - if we want to use the 4 special site, go east, southeast and found - if not, well, that's the elected official's perogative

	21-04-2003 11:55									#20
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cut through the red tape......someone make an executive decision