18-04-2003 04:05									#1
	Finns! Tell me about your women's suffrage! Get a bigger avatar today!

I decided to do some research on Finnish women's suffrage for a pre-Civil War history class I'm taking. Don't ask why it's relevant, it's extra credit.

I was curious if Finns here wanted to brag about how advanced their country is, especially compared to America on the topic. Apparently you all gave women the vote in 1906.

Any insightful links or resources would be much appreciated. Of course, if you all just want to brag, that's cool too.

	18-04-2003 04:11									#2
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The Finns are all asleep now since it is 0120 in Finland.

	18-04-2003 04:13									#3
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Well when they wake up.

That's why I'm shouting also.

	18-04-2003 04:21									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The Finns are all asleep now since it is 0120 in Finland.

The finns of here would never sleep at a mere 02:20

	18-04-2003 04:24									#5
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Yeah, I don't have a life for example, I am allways up at random huors. Unfortunately I have nothing to contribute about it, I only remember that we were second in the world, New Zealand 1st? I even got the year wrong, I thought it was 1905.

	18-04-2003 04:29									#6
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Bah. I could brag about how our president is a woman and how our next prime minister is also going to be a woman... but I slept through all the history classes regarding this subject ... I'd recommend just doing a Google search for finnish women's suffrage or something like that

	18-04-2003 04:30									#7
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Well, women got the right to vote, and, well, yes. They got the right to vote.

And it's not our "next" prime minister, it's our current prime minister

	18-04-2003 04:35									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala Bah. I could brag about how our president is a woman and how our next prime minister is also going to be a woman... but I slept through all the history classes regarding this subject ... I'd recommend just doing a Google search for finnish women's suffrage or something like that

Yes, I would also brag if I wouldn't be so ashamed.

	18-04-2003 04:39									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The Finns are all asleep now since it is 0120 in Finland.

Finns are nocturnal, didn't you know?

	18-04-2003 05:18									#10
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Finland had been quite comfortable under autonomy from Russia until 1899 when "russification" of Finland really began at full force.

The finns understandably did not like the idea, but could not really do anything about it; until Russia lost war to Japan. Things got unstable in Russia, and finns got their chance.
So finns went in to a nationwide strike. All parties united against bigger threat. Russians didn't want the disorder to spread and gave in.
Finns got senate and elections. Russians still got veto and power to dismiss the senate, which left this arrangement rather temporary.

Much of the credit probably goes to labour party, which changed its name in 1903 to Social Democratic Party and opted pretty progressive programme of principles including elements like right to vote for all citizens over age of 21, free speech, public schools, separation of church and state, public health care, removal of all limits on womens rights, and prohibitionary liquor law.

	18-04-2003 05:28									#11
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There were a lot of women's unions emerging along with labour unions in the beginning of the century, which probably played their part in getting rights for women.
There had been many improvements on women's rights already in the past 20 years.

	18-04-2003 05:51									#12
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Finnish women suffer every night.

	18-04-2003 05:53									#13
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If there were only Finns to date, I'd be a suffering woman too...

	18-04-2003 05:58									#14
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Finnish women are in purgatory.

	18-04-2003 06:13									#15
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Yes they suffer sometimes because I was lucky enough *kissing stars and thanks for the genes* to get a massive beast.

	18-04-2003 06:16									#16
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You have a cat like Tassadar's ?

	18-04-2003 06:17									#17
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Well what can I say.. women here are calling the shots pretty much. First they invaded our army, then had their president, now PM too.. I mean, what's next? They only complain about how tough it's having babies and bashing men, and never realize we are minority, 2 million of us, 3 million of them.. maybe some day they will get their 'logic' together and realize THEY ARE THE PROBLEM!

	18-04-2003 06:25									#18
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Felch X, Be sure to remember that and add it to your paper. We are oppressed here. All these wild feminist weight lifter types with too much body hair and manly clothing invades our homes with their speeches about how we are oppressing them? Reality check here, they're the ones in power. Also, I'd like to point out that they have now claimed that there must be quotas in businesses, so there will be more women in the leading jobs. It doesn't matter if you're qualified or not, you'll get in if you have pair of hanging old boobs, because that's equality. I'm telling you I don't know if they soon demand that we must crawl instead of walking in the streets, so they can spit on us easier. This is cry for help, US come here and please throw some bombs so we can show these feminists there place! THey pretty much all hate the US, so they're like terrorist in a way. Let's do this!

	18-04-2003 06:31									#20
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Pekka :
Are urinals forbidden already in Finland ?

	18-04-2003 06:34									#21
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That's right. When the bombs start exploding and bullets whistling, they all start crying 'please men come help us, they don't surrender to our constant nagging'. Then all that 'we don't need men' BS is forgotten. They don't need men except for having babies? WELL GUESS WHAT! SAME GOES BACK AT YOU! And when it comes down to it, fighting, we will always win. All the feminists can fantasize about the good old days when amazonian sistas threw spears and were all bad ass. But it's just a fantasy. I'm so angry right now, that I have to go to sleep or I'll pop a vein in my head.

	18-04-2003 06:35									#22
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Spiffor, no. but womens bathrooms are way much better in bars. They have sofas and stuff, so they can sit down and do some make up and nagging. What we have? Nothing...

edit: oh yeah, and women invades to our bathrooms in bars on daily basis. They come giggling and drunk (sometimes falling on their butts near the urinals, straight to someones pee, that's always good though) and bouncer does nothing. When a man goes to womens side giggling and drunk, they get their faces bashed in and thrown out. Equality? Sure.

	18-04-2003 06:55									#23
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we should end women's suffrage in the world. it's spreading, and it's causing women all over the world to have suffrage.

don't you think people, least of all women, should be able to live life without suffrage?

i have a dream that one day, all men and women will be able to live without the spectre of suffrage looming over their heads.

	18-04-2003 13:11									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia And it's not our "next" prime minister, it's our current prime minister

Sorry, I don't follow stuff like this ...

	18-04-2003 14:28									#25
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quote: I only remember that we were second in the world, New Zealand 1st

Third. NZ 1897, Australia 1898, Finland 1906. But in NZ or Australia, it wasn't possible for women to actually have seats in parliament.

Ignorance pretty much told you the main points, there. If you need additional info, Google will help, or so I hope.