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The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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Roddy Stinson: 'Avoid wearing of uniform' general warns local soldiers


Web Posted : 04/13/2003 12:00 AM

"If possible, avoid wearing of the uniform when dining in public places."
— From a "Protective Measures Awareness" notice sent to San Antonio's U.S. Army personnel by Maj. Gen. Darrel R. Porr on Friday

April 11, 2003, will be remembered as one of the saddest dates in Alamo City history.

Because of recent instances of harassment of uniformed personnel, Porr, the commanding general at Fort Sam Houston, felt compelled to warn the men and women who serve under him to use caution when traveling, shopping and dining in San Antonio.

"Two separate incidents against military personnel have occurred," Porr reported. "In the first incident, two males on the city's Northeast Side made threatening gestures and pounded on the car window of a drill sergeant and his spouse while they were on their way home.

"The second incident involved two sailors, in uniform, who were accosted by several males who said, 'You'd better not go to war,' as they departed a River Walk restaurant."

Porr provided this possible explanation for the hostile actions:

"There has been a significant increase of demonstrations throughout the United States in opposition to the ongoing U.S.-led military operations in Iraq.

"As individuals voice their opinions against military operations, they tend to direct their frustrations toward governmental and military symbols."

On receiving a copy of the notice from an anonymous e-mailer, I called Fort Sam to ask for more details about the incidents, in general, and the harassers, in particular.

A post spokesman indicated that more information was available, but declined "to go there."

He then made a point of emphasizing:

"Soldiers here in San Antonio have always proudly worn their uniform because of the support for the military.

"Previously, there has never been any perceived threat. This is quite unusual.

"Even during Vietnam, San Antonio was one community that supported the military forces.

"That's one reason the general put that notice out ... because (such harassment) is so unusual in this community."

The notice included cautions other than the warning not to wear uniforms when dining in San Antonio restaurants.

Porr also recommended:

"Be cognizant of people who gather and voice their sentiments against the military efforts in Iraq. Do not get involved."

"When in public facilities, soldiers should avoid conversations related to work or military operations in general."

"Always practice the 'Buddy System' when traveling."

"When in uniform, minimize the number of stops when traveling from home to work or vice versa. Wear civilian clothing when possible."

There you have it: San Antonio, Texas, anno Domini 2003, in all its un-glory.

What's worse ...

Community leaders continue to show pitifully little support for U.S. soldiers.

Example in point:

City officials have been mute as mice since troops entered Iraq. (The San Antonio City Council, which regularly passes resolutions honoring everything from the Dallas Cowboys to Hike and Bike Week, has deigned only to observe "a moment of silence" for the troops and their families.)

Add to that palpable hush the rants of the town's Saddam Hussein apologists, and "Military City USA" can easily degenerate into a South Texas backwater, where men and women in uniform can't safely wear their uniforms in public.

"Sad" hardly describes such a miserable state of affairs.

Fortunately, all of the news surrounding the recent threats isn't dreary.

One unofficial source I talked to said he had seen the police report of the incident on the River Walk, and he provided this description of the confrontation:

"Some Marines who were nearby saw what was happening and went to the sailors' aid.

"The matter was then taken care of by combined military action."



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To contact Roddy Stinson, call (210) 250-3155 or e-mail rstinson@express-news.net. His column appears on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.


04/13/2003


http://news.mysanantonio.com/story....=180&xlc=979366

Thanks to Drudge for the link.

This is sick. Shades of 'baby killers', anyone?

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They make it sound as not giving support to soldiers is somehow wrong. However, if someone harrasses someone, well then thats just silly.

General Ludd is offline General Ludd
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Aw, poor babies. Whatever will they do?

That's pretty mild harrasment considering what it is they do for a living.

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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Well, I see that Osweld has hit the ground running.

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Aw, poor babies. Whatever will they do?

That's pretty mild harrasment considering what it is they do for a living.


I didnt read the whole thing before but now that i see it, it doens seem like a big deal at all... Was the "you better not go to war" the only thing?

Maybe Im missing something cause I cant stand reading somethign thats more than 50 words (unless i have too)

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the harassment is plain stupid.

but even if you're not supporting the war, at least support your boys.

they're not the ones who started it. they're the ones who die for it.

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Maybe we could wait for Lefty to verify this report first.

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People will use any excuse to be an *******...

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Pathetic ignoramuses. As if harassing a frickin' soldier or sailor is going to change governmental policies one might disagree with. Such action will just get 'em in hot water, and not change policies.

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These morons harassing military personell are the worst kind of person. They don't care about peace. They probably don't know much about the issues either. These people are scum and if they weren't harassing troops they'd be running on the field at Comiskey (USCellular) Field in Chicago.

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Who won Alamo?

red_jon is offline red_jon
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It's not like harrasing soldiers gets anything done. Just adds more fuel for the right-wingers.

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Agreed, red_jon. But I'd like to think that everyone would respect the men and women who are willing to die for freedom.

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Agreed, red_jon. But I'd like to think that everyone would respect the men and women who are willing to die for freedom.


You would think so, but some people just can't respect the human shields and protesters who put their life on the line.


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Maybe we could wait for Lefty to verify this report first.
The fact that a local paper reports on local events isn't enough for you.

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Human shields are morons.

As I've said before, there are morons on both sides. Sure, I could go out and parade a bunch of Pro-War trailer trash, just as I could go around parading a bunch of dirty-flower-power hippies who don't understand what they are protesting against. It's like the bell-curve. You have to drop the extremes and focus on the majority of reasonable, moderate, and intelligent Americans stuck in the middle.

Tuberski is offline Tuberski
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Yes, they did report on it. Roddy Stinson is an idiot though, so I'm sure it's been exaggerated.

ACK!

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