19-04-2003 23:54									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka And that Norton movie I recommend is called Primal Fear. It has Richard Gere in it, but don't be afraid, the movie is good and Norton is just awesome in it. One of Nortons strong points is that he really really can adapt to different roles and be very different. Even his physique is different. In American History X he's very buffed up and muscular, and he does look scary. In Fight Club he is smaller (filmed after X movie), but still has good body, but is not that buffed up, and it's better for his role. Then again he can be like young boy with his body and acting. So I'd say he's very physical with his acting too, he can adapt like those weird jungle animals.

A sure characteristic of a real actor


Then you have the people that just play a universally enjoyable persona and nothing else (like Harrisson Ford - very good at what he does but he only does that).


Azazel, I doubt anyone would be interested in doing Armagedon...

	19-04-2003 23:54									#32
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But to make you feel better, I like american movies best myself.. and hollywood movies too.

	19-04-2003 23:57									#33
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paiktis, exactly! If you want to see a movie with Robert De Niro in it, it will be typical Robert De Niro. He is very good and talented and one of my all time favourites so this is not an insult, but if you see Norton.. you don't know what you're about to see.. how he's going to look, speak.. he can do anything. His style is just different from De Niros for example. Both are good and talented. It's like some people go and act themselves in their roles, and some people change dramatically to adapt those roles.

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quote: Azazel, I doubt anyone would be interested in doing Armagedon...

I'd take "Armaggeddon" over "Jean-Paul Wants To Get It On With The Albanian Cleaning Lady- 5" every day of the year.

	19-04-2003 23:58									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka DD, Really? Is the book made after or before? Is it based on real story, or is it just good fiction, or just 'movie book'?

1) It was written before the movie.

2) It's just good fiction IMO.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

	19-04-2003 23:59									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel quote: Azazel, I doubt anyone would be interested in doing Armagedon... I'd take "Armaggeddon" over "Jean-Paul Wants To Get It On With The Albanian Cleaning Lady- 5" every day of the year.

Cinema is blessed you don't only have these two choices

	20-04-2003 00:02									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka paiktis, exactly! If you want to see a movie with Robert De Niro in it, it will be typical Robert De Niro. He is very good and talented and one of my all time favourites so this is not an insult, but if you see Norton.. you don't know what you're about to see.. how he's going to look, speak.. he can do anything. His style is just different from De Niros for example. Both are good and talented. It's like some people go and act themselves in their roles, and some people change dramatically to adapt those roles.

yep, although I think De Niro does have a higher adaptability than say Ford. I classify him as a "real" actor... although I admit his persona sometimes gets on top and "betrays" him. But to my mind he is a really competant actor and changing.

That's the thing with real actors. They get under the flesh of their part and "transform"...

Like you go and see Norton or someone of his talent in a new movie and you go... who is that?!

	20-04-2003 00:06									#38
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De Niro is great, and so is Al Pachino, IMO. They're good actors, and certainly are classified as "real actors". They're casted into similar roles, but they're great at doing what they're doing, and they do change. De Niro changes his character a lot, he loses and gains weight. Only when you see his different movies you can follow that.

	20-04-2003 00:54									#39
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I like Al Pacino as well. They're real actors, but because they're so huge, sometimes it shines through. Maybe they're just too famous. De Niro indeed has gone through body changes in his roles. Mostly having to gain lots of weight. Have to admire the guy, he's very physical too.

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DD, and thanks for the info. I'll most definitely read it.

	20-04-2003 01:02									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka I like Al Pacino as well. They're real actors, but because they're so huge, sometimes it shines through. Maybe they're just too famous. De Niro indeed has gone through body changes in his roles. Mostly having to gain lots of weight. Have to admire the guy, he's very physical too.

Exactly. They are well known plus they have strong personalities which they can't "bend" easily. They are great actors regardless IMO.

Maybe Norton if he becomes more known will shine through his part too... although I think he does have the gift of the "chameleon". (I hope this is the word in english too)

	20-04-2003 01:06									#42
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My thoughts too.. Well let's just hope he gets different roles all the time. I think he has that gift too. That's the word, though I'm not sure if its spelled correctly.. cameleont maybe? I wanted to use that word too in my earlier posts, but I can't spell it

	20-04-2003 01:07									#43
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That has never stopped me

	20-04-2003 01:09									#44
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That's good.. and the odds are you speak better english than english speakers can speak greek..

	20-04-2003 01:11									#45
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I'd say...

It is my opinion that the lingua franca of any given era is meant to communicate with others. So we can **** it up as much as we want so long as we communicate

	20-04-2003 01:15									#46
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I think De Niro was great in that Movie with Billy Christal.

	20-04-2003 01:18									#47
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Azazel, what movie was that?

Now you'll have to excuse me, it's time for civilized culturel person like me to go watch some hockey and after that K-1 violence.

	20-04-2003 01:19									#48
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I think it is Analyze it. He was great indeed.

	20-04-2003 01:24									#49
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yep, "Analyze it".

Pekka, what's K-1?

	20-04-2003 01:57									#50
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Analyze it was funny . Analyze that was funny too.
I had hard time thinking De Niro could do comery, but that changed my mind. Also De Niro in Meet The Parents is great. The movie is hilarious..

K-1 is kickboxing.

	20-04-2003 01:59									#51
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Oh yeah, meet the parents.

Enjoy your kickboxing.

	20-04-2003 02:06									#52
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It's still about 15 minutes until the fists start flying..

yeah, meet the parents is great. I was laughing so hard, you can not help yourself but feel for the guy.. Focker that is

	20-04-2003 03:10									#53
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" I had hard time thinking De Niro could do comery"
See "The King of Comedy".

What did you Eurolainen think of "Catch Me If You Can" and "Minority Report"?

My tentative list of the best movies of the year:
1. Metropolis
2. Catch Me If You Can
In no particular order:
Spirited Away
Far From Heaven
Chicago
Spider-Man
Minority Report
8 Women
The Fast Runner
Road To Perdition
Monsoon Wedding

	20-04-2003 03:28									#54
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I even made a thread about Catch me if you can . I liked it very very much. Minority Report was cool too.

	20-04-2003 03:32									#55
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Cool! I also really really REALLY want to see the Man without a past, but I can't get it ANYWHERE!

	20-04-2003 03:39									#56
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Don't go to see it. It sucks .

Well if you're into art movies.. this is all about dark shades, weird dialogue, or no dialogue at all.

	20-04-2003 03:42									#57
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"Well if you're into art movies.. this is all about dark shades, weird dialogue, or no dialogue at all."
I just saw "Woman of the Dunes". If you know what that movies is, then that fact alone should speak for itself.

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Haven't seen it.. but you know most foreigners have liked the man without past, so who knows, you might like it too. I believe that it reminds us (finns) too much ourselves, and we don't like it that much.

	20-04-2003 04:38									#59
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but I thought finnish humor was supposed to be primarily self-deprecating???

	20-04-2003 14:12									#60
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Sure, but that movies is not humorous.. well it has few funny moments but not really that kind of movie.. you can laugh at it, but don't make it real!