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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:27
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Have you seen this movie?
I don't know, somehow it touched my somewhere deep, I don't know where and why but it did. It left me sad. Usually I like movies that moves me, sad, happy, what ever.. but this time I hope I didn't see this for some reason. It has few powerfull scenes though.
And I like Edward Norton generally.. I recommend this to anyone who likes Norton. It's basically a story about a guy in New York, drug dealer who gets busted and the movie is about the last day he spends free. He is with is friends and gf and father.
It has good scenes like where he tells his best friend (one of the two) to mangle his face, so he wouldn't be so pretty when he goes to jail in couple of hours, so he would survive there. But best friends don't want to bash others face in, but eventually they will because it's the others last request and because its for his own survival and good. Basically this guy is a scumbag drug dealer, but you can see his human side, and that he is very scared of going to prison. It's so painfull to him, and when he deserves to go to prison, you kind of wish he didn't have to and that he could just clean his act.
Then there is other powerful scene where father picks him up and drives him to jail. He says that he can take him to somewhere, so he can flee and not go to jail. This would mean lots of problems to his father from authority, he'd lose pretty much all he has. Maybe even get in trouble with those other criminals.. but he's ready to do it, to save his son. But if that happens, they can never meet, never write, never return. Then it has a scene where they are in bar , having last drink. No words are changed. Both knowning this is it. Then they briefly hug, father goes into the car and drives away, never looking back, no words. I don't know, it has some power in it that at least made me choke, and I'm not the type of person to choke on anything. Least in the movies.
What are your thoughts?
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Bereta_Eder
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I really like Norton, he's a good actor IMO. A real actor. (=scarcity)
Will be checking this movie.
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Bereta_Eder
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Don't even know who he is.
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Bereta_Eder
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Whereas Hours is a completely empty crap movie.
Might as well have been financed by the Greek ministry of culture.
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Bereta_Eder
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We generally tend to associate hollywood with any american movie. Logical since 95% of them are hollywwod but not correct of course.
hollywood stands for unoriginal, 2 hour pop corn w@nkery something that isn't the case for such movies as My Own Idaho, The Believer etc
Speaking outside that I never got around to seeing neither Amelie nor The man without a past :cry:
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Bereta_Eder
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Pekka, I understand what you say.
BTW it happens; to have certain scenes stick to your memory filter and making quite an impression particularly to you and not so much to most others.
For some reason.
Azazel, it depends on how you define "best". There're plenty of things hollywood can never fulfill. And in some times it might be just ok for then and there.
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:27
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Yeah, they both were very good. Also Norton does awesome work in movie where he's young catholic(?) boy accused of murder. I don't want to give any spoilers if someone hasn't seen it, because it's awesome movie.
Well, Hollywood makes the best movies is matter of taste, but I think they are in general though (best that is). But then people tend to devide Hollywood movies into typical Hollywood movies and then not so typical Hollywood movies where they mean that typical Hollywood movie is done with huge budget, plot what you can figure out in the first 5 minutes, few 'surprises' you can see coming from miles away, lots of explosions and happy ending.. if you know what I mean. Good example is all those disaster movies. But then again it can be used as a compliment being typical Hollywood, meaning it's done with no expenses saved, looking good and being good entertainment that doesn't have to have any deep things in it. And not so typical Hollywood movie is usually compliment, meaning that it really is Hollywood movie, but it doesn't have massive explosions and special effects, but master acting and great script that makes you think and you leave the theatre silent.
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Bereta_Eder
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Yep it is as Pekka said more or less here.
Although the really stupid hollywood films (and they are many) we call them "Amerikanies" which means something like the "american ones/ american 'style/production/mindset'" with a bit of slang in it.
They concistently get 0 out of 10. (think Armagedon)
Which don't go for all movies american made movies of course. far from it.
Last edited by Bereta_Eder on 19-04-2003 at 23:38
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19-04-2003 18:17
. Usually means constant flag waving and super patriotic stuff, cheesy and they are often very unrealistic too, in a way movie plots shouldn't be. You know the types where people starts yelling 'USA USA USA' and the one they're yelling at gets super powers and beats everyone and world is saved once again 
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