20-04-2003 22:09									#1
	DirectX 9.0a Microsoft Update ? Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

I see that MS has a new update for DirectX 9.

I run DirectX 9.0 now and am able to host and join but am reluctant to apply the update.

Someone else who just applied the update 9.0a was not able to host right after doing this and had to backout to a restore point.

Has anyone applied the new update and been able to host ?

Thanks in advance

	24-04-2003 06:50									#2
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I've had the same problem with DX9a. I've reverted back to 8.1 after eliminating all other problems. I was susing the older DX9 with no problems, this was manually D/L'd form MS as apposed to the Windows update pushed DX9a. I searched extensively for articles on this problem are found none. I'm susprised this hasn't been a bigger issue in the Civ community.

CanuckSoldier

	24-04-2003 12:19									#3
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Maybe most are not using it. I do not get any updated Direct X, unless it is required for a game I have. Its track record is spotty at best.

	24-04-2003 18:23									#4
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Actually, I've downloaded/installed DirectX9.0a awhile back and have not experienced any problems so far (I use Windows 2000 Pro). My partner has also downloaded DirectX9.0a without a problem (he uses Windows XP Pro).

	24-04-2003 21:17									#5
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What kind off network card does your friend with XP Pro have? Just trying to figure out if it's my hardware that doesn't like DX9a or it's related Upnp features. I've looked at the relavent MS newsgroups and there are directplay/Upnp problems with some hardware/routers but nothing specific to Civ3 althought other games have reported problems. Thanks

CanuckSoldier

	24-04-2003 22:09									#6
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Why would you use UPnP in the first place?

	25-04-2003 03:39									#7
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I don't use Upnp since I don't have a Upnp router or anything. But just because you don't use a function doesn't mean the code isn't causing problems.

	25-04-2003 04:39									#8
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For me DirectX9.0a fix all my MP problem's I've got with Directx9.0.
I was unable to join or host any MP game... and it was related with MSN Messenger 4.7... since that MSN Messenger 4.7 and Civ3:PTW works perfectly.

	25-04-2003 06:19									#9
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quote: Originally posted by CanuckSoldier What kind off network card does your friend with XP Pro have? Just trying to figure out if it's my hardware that doesn't like DX9a or it's related Upnp features. I've looked at the relavent MS newsgroups and there are directplay/Upnp problems with some hardware/routers but nothing specific to Civ3 althought other games have reported problems. Thanks CanuckSoldier

Actually possible problems with DirectX upgrades would most likely be in your sound and graphics cards, not your UPNP features.

But I digress, to answer your question, my partner uses an Intel Pro 100 network card. His Graphics card is: ATI Radeon 7000, and his Sound card is: Sound Max Integrated Audio (yes, it's a crappy audio device and getting driver updates for it can be a pain, but it works).

The point here to remember is to make sure all of your drivers are up to date. There is also the off-chance that you might have a bad sector in your memory/harddrive. If you run DirectX diagnostics, this should indicate if your memory is fine or not. To check your harddrive you can run scandisk. I hope this helps.

	25-04-2003 09:10									#10
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I have seen a number of people reporting issues with different games since updating DirectX. I have also seen some that haven't had any problems. Right now, I am taking a wait and see before updating it.

For those who don't read the fine print, it says:

The DirectX 9.0a runtime cannot be uninstalled. We recommend Windows Me and Windows XP users create a "System Restore" point before installing.

Also, the MP issue is addressed for 9.0a:

This release also resolves an issue with DirectX 9.0 where some multiplayer games or MSN Messenger may not work correctly. A number of minor bugs were also resolved.

	25-04-2003 11:32									#11
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Well, the UPnP service hasn't been installed by default in Win ME or Win XP, but if you have later on installed it, uninstall it as it's a major security loophole. You also need to disable the service using either X-Setup or GRC's UPnP disabling program.

	26-04-2003 08:28									#12
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Well I have that same intell pro 100 network card, which I have now installed the latest drivers off the intell site. I've also D/L'd a copy of the original DX9 but I haven't had a change yet to test this config before moving on to DX9a again. I'll also check and see if Upnp service is installed in the control panel, although if it is it's been installed before the dx9a ungrade.

Thanks for the responses.

CanuckSoldier