21-04-2003 13:41									#1
	Lego-Vox trade proposal Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

OK, we have discussed this enough and time is running out. Do you agree or not with such a proposal?

quote: Lego-Vox trade proposal 1. Vox agrees to gift Engineering to Lego on the turn it becomes available for Vox. Lego agrees on a 20 turns "no-whoring" clause. 2. Lego agrees to gift Theology to Vox upon request, urging Vox not to request it until they need it for Education, in order to make it difficult for any other team trying to research it on their own. Vox agrees not to build the Sistine Chapel, and to not trade Theology to any team unless that team also agrees not to build the Sistine Chapel as part of the trade. 3. Lego agrees to pay 120 gold to Vox on turn 97 (Vox receives it on turn 98). Vox gifts Lego their WM on turn 98, their WM again when the war with GS is over and war reports and screenshots every 3 (??) turns. 4. Lego grants Vox a loan of 120 gold on turn 102 (Vox receives on turn 103). Vox starts repaying it in 20 turns after turn 103, in an amount of 6 gpt, for 20 turns.

Possible answers:
1. Yes
2. Yes, but I'd like to see it slightly modified ... (please explain)
3. No, but if we'd modify ... I'd accept it (please explain)
4. No
5. I'd rather give them a banana (abstain)

	21-04-2003 13:49									#2
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I voted yes.

I explained my reasons in the "Vox Controli - correspondence & foreign affairs" thread, in a quite detailed manner.

I still feel that Voxes are giving us much more that we are offering them and I'm afraid that our help won't be enough. A few turns on 0 research would have given us enough money to help Voxes win the war, which would be a tremendous success for us. Well, let's hope for the better.

Last edited by Tiberius on 21-04-2003 at 14:05

	21-04-2003 22:37									#3
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One thing I thought of: should we include a secrecy clause, like we did with the previous treaty? Not sure about this. It would imply we are hedging our bets even after vondrack's chat with BetaHound.

	21-04-2003 22:45									#4
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Most probably yes. After all, we are not sure that Vox will win this war, and we don't want to turn GS into our enemies, should they become more powerful after this conflict. I think they are suspecting RP to be the financier of Vox, so let keep them in this belief. Of course, if Vox wins, it doesn't really matters anymore.
The GoW and ND may wonder too where the Vox gold come from and why would we risk to reveal it? Let them suspect each other.

	24-04-2003 10:27									#5
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Is the poll still open? I don't know, I've voted and for me it says that "You have already voted on this poll.", but is it closed or not? If it is closed, then we should probably re-vote. We can't really validate it with 5 votes. (and the last 3 days weren't ...hmmm 3 days :-) )

	24-04-2003 11:02									#6
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I would suggest a re-vote, just to be fully sure that everyone got a chance to vote.