24-04-2003 19:32									#1
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The IBM Personal Computer was introduced.


And Bill Gates was infected with terminal grin.

	24-04-2003 19:38									#2
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And it was a turd.

Gates was a weenie then, Paul Allen was the brains of the bunch, which combined with his later diagnosis of Parkinson's disease, is why Gates is where he is now.

	24-04-2003 19:43									#3
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And this date 1061 Haleys comet was sighted by an english monk... On this date in 1066 the Normands invaded England...

	24-04-2003 19:44									#4
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I wasn't alive and the world was still dark.


Ego? Moi?

	24-04-2003 19:45									#5
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Hodgkins disease, Mike. If you're gonna slam, get your facts straight!

And I really disagree with your assessment of the relative worth of the two co-founders of Microsoft, but I really don't care enough about the issue to get into a big ol' pissin' match. So you win by default.

	24-04-2003 19:51									#6
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The fact remains, Gates is in fact, where he is now.

You think your border swimming buddies care how they got here?
No. Only that they arrrived.

	24-04-2003 20:31									#7
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Hodgkins disease, Mike. If you're gonna slam, get your facts straight! And I really disagree with your assessment of the relative worth of the two co-founders of Microsoft, but I really don't care enough about the issue to get into a big ol' pissin' match. So you win by default.

I can't just let you go so easy. "Who'd ever need more than 640k?" 'nuf said.

	24-04-2003 20:32									#8
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand You think your border swimming buddies care how they got here? No. Only that they arrrived.

Most of 'em are regular commuters, so they like to shop around for the best deal.

	24-04-2003 20:50									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Henrik And this date 1061 Haleys comet was sighted by an english monk... On this date in 1066 the Normands invaded England...

I thought they invaded at around Michaelmas which is September. Why did I think that I wonder.

	24-04-2003 22:06									#10
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the first IBM pc was pathetic, especially in comparison to Apple's products at the time.

	24-04-2003 22:10									#11
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Do you know that MSFT has lost more than 50% of market cap since Jan 2000? At its peak it was worth 700B, or something insane like that.

	24-04-2003 22:13									#12
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who cares if the first IBM was pathetic... it IS what has carried us this far... I mean, who uses a Mac anyway? Steve Jobs can kiss my... actually he is really rich too (despite his salary of $1/year)... Nevermind

	24-04-2003 22:25									#13
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I do.

	24-04-2003 22:39									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Japher who cares if the first IBM was pathetic... it IS what has carried us this far...

That is wrong.

The IBM PC set the development of microcomputers by about 10 years. Not only that, we are still stuck with that godawful x86 architecture.

	24-04-2003 23:13									#15
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The triumph of the IBM PC was surely that it freely allowed cloning. Do you really believe Microcomputers would be more developed if each hardware manufacturer had to have its own proprietary operating system?

	24-04-2003 23:16									#16
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That would be computer Hell, Buck.


You want Basic? My brother had a Timex Sinclair.

	28-04-2003 07:52									#17
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Macs crash now far more often than PC.

It's a pity that Apple were so greedy back then as they didn't allow their architecture to be open. Otherwise, we might have a choice today.

	28-04-2003 07:54									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Do you know that MSFT has lost more than 50% of market cap since Jan 2000? At its peak it was worth 700B, or something insane like that.

Compare that to the NASDAQ average and it paints a slightly different picture.

Interesting spin you tried, though.

Other interestings facts:
MSFT's revenue jumped from $22,956,000,000 in 2000 to $28,365,000,000 in 2002.
Gross profit from $19,954,000,000 to $23,174,000,000.
Total current assets from $30,308,000,000 to $48,576,000,000.

	28-04-2003 07:58									#19
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I was born!

Oh, wait, we already did a thread on that...my bad.

	28-04-2003 08:01									#20
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Asher, why do you love MS so much? You are always so passionate in their defense.

	28-04-2003 08:02									#21
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand That would be computer Hell, Buck. You want Basic? My brother had a Timex Sinclair.

They were called Sinclair Spectrums in the UK and every kid had one (who wouldn't with a massive 48k memory?)

BTW is anyone old enough to have owned a Vic20? 3.5k of RAM and a version of BASIC that made machine code look easy!

	28-04-2003 08:04									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless Asher, why do you love MS so much? You are always so passionate in their defense.

It's not that I love MS, it's that I hate people who are anti-MS and try to subvert everyone because they don't know any better.

So I will be here to correct and clarify in times like these.

	28-04-2003 17:35									#23
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever They were called Sinclair Spectrums in the UK and every kid had one (who wouldn't with a massive 48k memory?) BTW is anyone old enough to have owned a Vic20? 3.5k of RAM and a version of BASIC that made machine code look easy!

Go ZX spectrum- Elite, Jet set willy,manic miner, ninja scooter. they are all classics.

	28-04-2003 19:34									#24
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever They were called Sinclair Spectrums in the UK and every kid had one (who wouldn't with a massive 48k memory?) BTW is anyone old enough to have owned a Vic20? 3.5k of RAM and a version of BASIC that made machine code look easy!

ZX81, cost £10, 1K RAM (we eventually upgraded to 8K) Had a special pack of frozen peas to sit it on to keep it cool.

Then upgraded to a BBC Model A with a huge 16K RAM that we eventually upgraded to 32K

Then to the Commodore 64. The far superior competitor of the crappy see-through colour and rubber keyed Speccy.