25-04-2003 23:55									#1
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Marketplaces of some cities in former USSR were raided by CD-antipirates. After hour the sellpoints continued saling disc. Police of these cities performs these raid dou to USA activity: USA warns, that they will do economic sanctions agains countries who will not do this. It's an example of violent american politics and ameracans putting their laws to other countries. USA accuses some other countries of extortion, but USA do exactly the same.

	25-04-2003 23:58									#2
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quote: Originally posted by muxec It's an example of violent american politics and ameracans putting their laws to other countries.

I thought copyright is international?

	25-04-2003 23:59									#3
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro I thought copyright is international?

It is. But why let facts get in the way of a good rant?

	26-04-2003 00:01									#4
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Ok, IŽll be quiet then

	26-04-2003 00:02									#5
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Even if it wasn't international, it is still stealing. Muxec, are you saying that The US being against stealing is "violent American politics"?

Take your anti-American junk elsewhere or come up with something worthwhile to discuss.

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quote: Originally posted by BeBro I thought copyright is international?

Some other countries accepted it under USA extortion. Bit USA also demend to obey this law.

	26-04-2003 00:06									#7
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So Russian artists wouldnŽt have any problem with mass-copies of their stuff sold at low prices everywhere? I need some Tchaikovsky Cds.....

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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 Even if it wasn't international, it is still stealing. Muxec, are you saying that The US being against stealing is "violent American politics"? Take your anti-American junk elsewhere or come up with something worthwhile to discuss.

What do they steal? Show me it please.

	26-04-2003 00:09									#9
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My Oxford English dicktionary explains the word "steal" as "To take something secretely and without right.

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quote: Originally posted by muxec Some other countries accepted it under USA extortion. Bit USA also demend to obey this law.

The bastards!

	26-04-2003 00:11									#11
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quote: Originally posted by muxec What do they steal? Show me it please.

I presume that you are stating that creative works are instantly subject to proliferation by the masses. Please stop by the nearest museum and try to walk out with a painting. Just because it is vocal instead of painted makes no difference on the fact that its creative rights belong to someone.

BTW, this is internationally recognized thought, not just American.

	26-04-2003 00:13									#12
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quote: Originally posted by muxec My Oxford English dicktionary explains the word "steal" as "To take something secretely and without right.

Please explain why these sellers have a "right" to someone elses intellectual property?

	26-04-2003 00:13									#13
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc The bastards!

Very intresting aproach

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quote: try to walk out with a painting

Painting is tangible item. You are allowed to photo it.

quote: BTW, this is internationally recognized thought, not just American.

But only USA presses on others to make them copyrighted.

	26-04-2003 00:20									#15
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quote: Take your anti-American junk elsewhere or come up with something worthwhile to discuss.

plato, muxec may be wrong, but that's quite anti-american of you as well...

	26-04-2003 00:23									#16
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muxec, ideas, music, software, none of them are tangible.

should they not be copyrighted?

	26-04-2003 00:33									#17
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The original post is ok... and discussing what happened is fine...

But once you say there is nothing wrong with such behaviour, and it's not stealing... then you are implying that it's ok to do so. AND THAT IS AGAINST the rules of this site.

Don't start a new thread on this subject muxec.
You had your chance, and blew it... as expected