26-04-2003 21:16									#1
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I guess it is nearly time for the May elections.

I suggest that with the lulls during the Easter weekend and the subsequent Apolyton server crash for 3 days, we should extend the current term by say a week from April 30 to May 7 due to the lack of turns during those periods.

Since we usually give ourselves 7-10 days for the election nominations and voting - that would leave a deadline for Nominations of somewhere between April 30 to May 3 perhaps?

	27-04-2003 02:18									#2
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That would be fine with me; so would sticking with the 30th. Either way. But I guess it is getting a little late for nominations if we open polls on the 30th...

	06-05-2003 03:05									#3
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With the new crash problem, I suggest we delay elections until the game is running again. (Or if. ) The current ministers can play the first post-crash turns while we run nomimations, campaigns, and elections.

	06-05-2003 19:13									#4
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Actually if the game will work again, we should change the Constitution, IMHO. There is no need for these monthly elections. We could change the term to 2 months or do it like in the ISDG: change the leadership only on request.

	06-05-2003 22:48									#5
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First things first, does anyone want to run for an office they currently don't hold or is anyone wanting to leave office?

	07-05-2003 00:01									#6
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Well... I am very seriously considering not running for the President again, for various reasons (though some of them - those related to the amount of time needed to run the team - actually ceased to be a problem recently, due to the fact that game slowed considerably down... even before the crash problem emerged).

There might be circumstances that could push me over the edge and make me run again, but I do hope there will be someone else willing and wishing to take over.

	07-05-2003 03:17									#7
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I still trying recover from my prior devastating defeat. So no, I am not running for anything.

	07-05-2003 19:24									#8
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I suggest that we suspend discussions on this until the future of the game can be sorted.

	13-05-2003 21:03									#9
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Well the game is working again so its time to start working on elections, so I annouce I'm running for FAM again.

	13-05-2003 23:59									#10
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I'll be running for MB again.

Sorry to hear you're retiring vondrack. While there have been a few controversies, you've been a great President.

I'm willing to be VP if needed, but I don't think I could do Prez just yet.

	14-05-2003 00:39									#11
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Well, I guess I'll bite the bullet and go for it...

Announcing my candidacy for Legoland President

I'll be handing out buttons and hats shortly!

	14-05-2003 00:48									#12
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I will be happy to support ZargonX for President.

	14-05-2003 02:57									#13
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I'd like to stay where I am.

While I am sorry to see Radek go, I can understand him. The man wants his life back My only remark is that if I was him, I'd give up the ISDG Presidency. But I'm not him

Zargon, prepare yourself for the Chronicle updates

	14-05-2003 03:49									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius I'd like to stay where I am. While I am sorry to see Radek go, I can understand him. The man wants his life back My only remark is that if I was him, I'd give up the ISDG Presidency. But I'm not him Zargon, prepare yourself for the Chronicle updates

Actually, I plan to help Zargon with the Chronicle updates heavily - I suppose he will do the textual part (actions taken) and I will do the pictures. I don't plan to quit or withdraw from the team - hopefully, I will be able to do even more work for the team if able to stay away from some "circular" debates (which is not really an option, being the Prez).

It's mostly the feeling I can "disappear" for a day or two with no consequences that I lack (I can do that in ISDG easier than here - at least that's how I feel as the Lego Prez).

And as for PtWDG vs. ISDG... I will be honest. ISDG is much easier for me, as it takes just an eyeblink to get to an agreement with nye and MWIA (Consuls do not theoretically have to care about anything else, as the system of government there is different from ours). I admit that getting to the same level of agreement here is more difficult and time consuming for me. Or I feel it is. I would like to take a break.

We have basically never tried letting someone else run this team. Let's try it and see how it goes. If smoothly, great. If not, I am not going to leave all this great work we all have contributed to. There will be more terms in the future, after I get my neglected-a-bit RL stuff done...

Oh... and... thanks to everybody voting for me in the HoF. I was so pleasantly surprised to see my name there several times.

	14-05-2003 05:04									#15
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Hi guys!

Haven't been posting as much lately due to being somewhat overwhelmed by RL these days - work and other matters.

Being such I sympathize with Vondrack's decision not to run for Pres again this term. Our powerful position in the game reflects your good leadership thus far, Radek, though I have been amazed how you have been coping with both the ISDG, Legoland and RL affairs at once (plus my continual debating/arguing of course )

I also throughly support Zargon for the Presidential position - despite his chaining me up in a prison ever since his MA coup...

Of course, this means that the MA position currently has no candidates. Is anyone interested? Due to work commitments, I can't run for any position unless it was joint/shared like last term.

Do we also have any Europeans interested in the VP position if Zargon (or any other North American candidate) is elected President?

Another thing is I think that we should expand the amount of people that we get the save turn sent to us to 3 people at least. Radek, would you be willing to remain on the send list if you aren't President or VP this term?

	14-05-2003 11:52									#16
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I would have no problem remaining on the list of players (I would actually respectfully request to remain there, to have an easy, direct access to the savegames I need to create Chronicle updates). Thinking of how much work the MA post has involved so far (plus, how fine and long-term plans are already posted in our forum), I guess I would have no problem running for this post, possibly becoming a VP. If there is noone else wishing to run for the MA, I will fill in.

	20-05-2003 20:34									#17
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Ok we need to do these elections, I'd say one more day then put the polls up what you guys think?

	21-05-2003 00:00									#18
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Hey guys! Sorry, I've been out of town for a few days, out of contact longer than I expected Anyway, holding elections this week would probably be a good idea, as we are getting behind schedule, and we need to get back on track.

	21-05-2003 01:20									#19
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What elections? Is there any position with more than one candidate?

	21-05-2003 07:35									#20
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Don't think so; we have one person per position.
President: ZargonX
Vice Prez and Military Architect: vondrack
Master Builder: Me
Enlightened: Tiberius

	21-05-2003 07:48									#21
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and Foreign Minister: Nimitz

I agree that we should close the nominations shortly.

Regarding my earlier idea to expand the number of people that would get the gamesave from Vox, I suggest that people in the following positions get the save (unless they don't want to get it):

1) President
2) Vice President
3) Master Builder
4) Military Architect

With all due respect to the Enlightened and Foreign Minister positions, they involve more long-term decisions or information gathering that doesn't necessarily need the current gamesave promptly.

However, it is very possible that the Master Builder and Military Architect would change their orders upon viewing a current gamesave - especially during a war situation.

Giving the MB and MA the gamesave could allow them the opportunity to reevaluate their orders based on up- to-date information if they load up the gamesave before the turn is played by the President or Vice President. Otherwise they would the gamesave available immediately to plan the moves for the next turn promptly (could be useful now that there is another drive to reduce the turnaround time for the turn re the new Timecounter push).

	21-05-2003 07:56									#22
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I like that idea. Especially considering that I can't seem to get the latest save right now.

	21-05-2003 09:16									#23
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Yes, I would support that too. As I am currently VP and MA, I can say with assurity that on one or two occasions when I played the turn myself, I altered some of my orders upon viewing the actual game. Having those positions on the list would be a good idea

	21-05-2003 13:01									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep Especially considering that I can't seem to get the latest save right now.

I am unable to upload anything to redstar's server, must be down...

	22-05-2003 21:29									#25
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Well, as there seem to be no contested elections, do we go ahead and hold polls anyway, or should we simply set a date for the government transition?

	23-05-2003 00:51									#26
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I think we should simply set a date.

I haven't kept track of how many turns were played this term, though I guess it doesn't really matter. Perhaps we should set the date at the 25th? That's 3 more days for "Term" 3. Doesn't matter too much to me, since I'm not leaving/switching jobs.

	23-05-2003 08:06									#27
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No polls needed, let's just set a date.

	23-05-2003 10:32									#28
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How about the 26th? I'm going to be kind of busy this weekend (attending a wedding and whatnot ), and it'd be nice if I could start my reign of tyranny on a day I will be able to fully concentrate on it.

	23-05-2003 13:57									#29
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No problem with me, I will be here for the whole of this weekend.

	30-05-2003 16:43									#30
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Since we never oficially closed this down, I have a proposal:

I think Vondrack should be FA. He's very good in it. Besides, I didn't see Nimitz in weeks, or even if he was around, I didn't see him doing too much in the foreign relationships arena.

The MoW could be Sharpe then.