27-04-2003 21:59									#61
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Your protest time was time ill-spent, and ill-advised.

	27-04-2003 22:02									#62
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Actually, I can't think of a more patriotic use of time than to protest injustice. I'm sure it pails in comparison to the time Cheney will spend reading his Halliburton stock reports.

	27-04-2003 22:04									#63
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It may have been time wasted from the point of view of stopping the usurper from waging his pet war, but it re-energized the protest movement in the US, which bin Laden had pretty well succeeded in knocking out.

It was not ill-advised. Your foreign adventure was ill-advised. But you aren't the one paying the price in blood, so you can be happy and dance on their graves all you want. Tens of thousands dead, and new Islamic state in the making, the utter destruction of civilization's history, and you think the Prez was well advised.

Do you even pay any attention to anything besides FOX? They are completely clueless as to what they are doing in Iraq. All they have managed to do was destroy the country. Idiots! Supreme IDIOTS!

	27-04-2003 22:07									#64
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quote: But you aren't the one paying the price in blood, so you can be happy and dance on their graves all you want.

Sure, without fighting wars with other people's money and other people's children, the Republican Party wouldn't have a foreign policy.

Number of Congressmen with children in the military: 1

	27-04-2003 22:12									#65
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It was a waste of time in that it accomplished zilch.
At least had you become a Human Shield, you might have your brain working right again by now.

	27-04-2003 22:13									#66
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But we didn't accomplish zilch.

	27-04-2003 22:16									#67
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara But we didn't accomplish zilch.

I'll agree that you probably made alot of people late for work by blocking traffic.

	27-04-2003 22:17									#68
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*chegitz points to the creation of four or five very large potest organizations which haen't stood down with the end of the war. "We're gonna bring the Usurper down!"

	27-04-2003 22:17									#69
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Actually, I think the media coverage of the protests accomplished a lot. It showed the rest of the world that Americans aren't all stupid, greedy, war-mongering fools.

	27-04-2003 22:22									#70
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So what, Che? Because you have a lot of buddies blowing it, it's ok that you do too?

I saw where a guy jumped off a bridge. Feel free.

	27-04-2003 22:38									#71
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We have no intention of following you off the side of the bridge, Sloww. Just stop trying to take the rest of us with you.

	27-04-2003 22:44									#72
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Having you been paying attention Che? Sloww will make someone else jump off the bridge for him.

	27-04-2003 22:47									#73
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You could have spent time protesting something meaningful, but nooooo.

And to make it all the worse, you still continue to do the same.

Pick a battle that makes sense.
Iraq didn't, and doesn't.

	27-04-2003 22:48									#74
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When an Iraqi commits a terrorist attack against the US on the scale of 9-11, you might change your tune.

	27-04-2003 22:49									#75
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Pick a battle that makes sense. Iraq didn't, and doesn't.

Well, I'm glad you agree. Maybe now we can get after the Pakistanis, Saudis, and al-Qaeda while settling the ignored dispute on the Korean peninsula.

	27-04-2003 22:51									#76
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One aspect of why it was right, yes, terrorism.
And all the others.

Repeating and ignoring doesn't mean jack.
Ignore protestors time.

	27-04-2003 22:57									#77
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Terrorism as a reason to attack Iraq? Ahhh... are you one of the people that think Saddam was responsible for 9-11?

And speaking of terrorism, throwing gasoline on a fire doesn't extinguish it.

	27-04-2003 23:15									#78
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If those who live in the US could bring themselves to look outside it for a couple of seconds you would see that things aren't so peachy. Your own media are virtually all cheerleaders for the war. Outside it is not like that - particularly in the Islamic world.

Did you notice for example that Bush cancelled a visit to Ottawa. We all know why - the various protest groups had planned to meet him on parliament hill and give him an earful. It would have been hugely embarassing to him. So far he's been to Northern Ireland which is full of fascists anyway. I wonder where else he'll be able to go without being pelted with eggs?

The US is now viewed by the majority of the world's inhabitants as a rogue state and the biggest threat to international peace and stability. You've basically burned your boats with your traditional allies and become the problem rather than the solution. If it becomes evident that there were no WMD and Iraq turns to cr@p then Blair is finished - so there's your last remaining friend gone.

I'll bet OBL is dancing with glee as we speak.

	27-04-2003 23:17									#79
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand You could have spent time protesting something meaningful, but nooooo. And to make it all the worse, you still continue to do the same. Pick a battle that makes sense. Iraq didn't, and doesn't.

A lot of the protest is anti American. That's still something worth protesting for. If we can get all our folks to use the Euro as a reserve currency then your fat ugly country is doomed.

	28-04-2003 00:45									#80
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Actually sava, all the reasons the anti-war crowd had have been disproven.

quote: Originally posted by reds4ever I believe Iraqis are protesting in Baghdad at the moment...?

Yup, and that proves my point. Were they free to protest several months ago?

quote: Why was war with Hussien unavoidable? there are plenty of other dictators with poor human rights records that the US HAS managed to avoid war with.

If you want to launch war on twenty other nations at the same time be my guest. The US has gotta take this one nation at a time.

You left have your arguments full of holes.

	28-04-2003 01:05									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Actually sava, all the reasons the anti-war crowd had have been disproven.

Since some of their reasons pertain to the long term situation, that is a patently false statement.

quote: Yup, and that proves my point. Were they free to protest several months ago?

But will they be free to have an Islamist government if they want one. My guess is - no.

quote: If you want to launch war on twenty other nations at the same time be my guest. The US has gotta take this one nation at a time.

This is why I think Al Quaeda is the lesser of two evils.

	28-04-2003 01:52									#82
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It may have been time wasted from the point of view of stopping the usurper from waging his pet war, but it re-energized the protest movement in the US, which bin Laden had pretty well succeeded in knocking out. It was not ill-advised. Your foreign adventure was ill-advised. But you aren't the one paying the price in blood, so you can be happy and dance on their graves all you want. Tens of thousands dead, and new Islamic state in the making, the utter destruction of civilization's history, and you think the Prez was well advised. Do you even pay any attention to anything besides FOX? They are completely clueless as to what they are doing in Iraq. All they have managed to do was destroy the country. Idiots! Supreme IDIOTS!

Yay! More protestors who mainstream can ignore.

The war has also made the left go completely hysterical, as this post indicates. Many, angry that they didn't get their way as a minority, have turned with hatred toward their countrymen. So one positive side effect from this war has been the comedy value of watching much of the left go bonkers.

	28-04-2003 04:13									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Since some of their reasons pertain to the long term situation, that is a patently false statement.

No actually my statement is true.

quote: But will they be free to have an Islamist government if they want one. My guess is - no.

No. They will have to retain a secular state like Turkey. I know Turkey is in a crapload of problems, economic and political, but there must be a constitution dedicating a secular democratic state. A secular dictatorship or islamic dictatorship is not an option.

quote: This is why I think Al Quaeda is the lesser of two evils.

You have issues. And are really brainwashed.

	28-04-2003 04:39									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Fez If you want to launch war on twenty other nations at the same time be my guest. The US has gotta take this one nation at a time.

so what Iraq first and why now??? I'll let me help you, 'three letters, the first letter is 'O'? any ideas?

If the US wants to kick the **** out of other countries, no one can stop them, they're powerful enough do do it, I just wish they'd quit with the 'it's for the Iraqi people' BS.

Just admit 'Like it or lump it, I'm gonna finish Daddies work and take their oil', not nice but at least it's honest

	28-04-2003 04:40									#85
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Sure.

And no it doesn't have anything to do with oil... that is a media lie.

It has to do with other nations screwing with US national security. Unacceptable.

	28-04-2003 05:18									#86
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quote: "There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." -- Socrates

man those Greeks were smart

	28-04-2003 05:42									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Fez It has to do with other nations screwing with US national security. Unacceptable.

but when the US screws with other countries national security?

	28-04-2003 05:45									#88
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever but when the US screws with other countries national security?

It is called defense.

	28-04-2003 05:54									#89
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a 'pro-active defence strategy' thats got a certain ring to it don't you think?

	28-04-2003 22:44									#90
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Let me ask this:

Why are you anti-war people so sure that Sadamm Hussein wasn't responsible for 9/11?

How do you know UBL isn't some puppet, and Hussein was pulling the strings?

All you have to go on is U.S. intelligence which was pretty bad 2 years ago.

No I don't think Hussein was responsible, but there was that possiblility.

And I think paying the family's of dead terrorist bombers is enough support of terrorism for me. Take him down. This war is part of our war on terrorism. make no mistake about that.