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So, what's it gonna be? (Time out:0 days after 28-04-2003, 10:22)
Communists (Iraqi Communist Party)
Shia Islamists (Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq)
Sunni Islamists (?)
Kurdish Nationalists (Kurdistan Democratic Party and Patriotic Union of Kurdistan)
Assyrian Nationalists (Assyrian Democratic Movement)
Turkoman Nationalists (Iraqi Turkoman Front)
Ba'athists Part II (Iraqi National Accord)
Constitutional Monarchists (Constitutional Monarchy Movement)
Umbrella Group with No Support (Iraqi National Congress)
Free Bananists (Iraqi National Front for Free Bananas)
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Ramo is offline Ramo
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Iraqi Elections: Who Will You Vote For? Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Iraqi elections are being held today, and your vote counts as citizens of Apolyton. Which major political group will represent you?

Will you vote tactically and sell out your ideals or will you vote for your ideals and to hell with being pragmatic?

A fragile government is on the line.

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me orange says Iraqi National Congress...

but me typical Iraqi thinks: I'm a Shiite living in the south, and have been mildly oppressed by the past regimes. The United States is not leaving governing up to us, and plan to stay for a long time. Iran was successful in overthrowing their American puppet Shah in the 70s by going through an Islamic revolution. If the Americans don't leave, this will be the only way to make them leave. I vote for the Shii'te Revolutionary Party. This will also prevent Kurds and Sunnis from oppressing me and mine.

Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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"Umbrella Group with No Support (Iraqi National Congress)"

They don't have much support now, but that can change with time. Che in his thread mentioned the Iraqis will be getting universal health care. If we improve the iraqis' situtation, if we see that they don't starve, if we see their kids get treated when they are sick.... we can gain pro-US sympathy and thus get more support for pro-US parties such as INC

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"Umbrella Group with No Support (Iraqi National Congress)"

They don't have much support now, but that can change with time. Che in his thread mentioned the Iraqis will be getting universal health care. If we improve the iraqis' situtation, if we see that they don't starve, if we see their kids get treated when they are sick.... we can gain pro-US sympathy and thus get more support for pro-US parties such as INC


But you don't support it in your own country? Interesting...

Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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Got spare money?

I'm not worried about an Islamic revolution that could make life a whole lot more difficult for us in the United States.

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You mean you're a hypocrite.

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no, hes just so indoctrinated by the republican party that he believes universal health care is a bad thing.

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Don't want all those poor people being cured, do we?

Az is offline Az
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I'll vote for either the communists, or the Assyrian nationalists. or maybe the kurd ones.

I have to think this over.

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Communists, of course. All Iraqis should get a slice of the oil $.

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Consitutional Monarchy, of course.

Iraq needs order, respect for law, and due process. The hallmarks of constitutional monarchy.

And the king of jordan is backing the heir to the Iraqi throne, prince al-Hassan.

Az is offline Az
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Isn't he his uncle or something?

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The AECCP!

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Hmmm, a Hashiemite roting for the family to get a coutnry back under them? How novel.

Comeon people, bakc the Communists! Think fo the delicious Irony! And they are anti-Islamist!

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Commies ! Commies !

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I'd love to see a communist party gaining power there. Then again, many people call themselves communist. just look at the russian communist party.

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I'd love to see a communist party gaining power there. Then again, many people call themselves communist. just look at the russian communist party.




Almost as sickening as your avatar

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I really wish I would stop getting this messgae whenever I try to vote:

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Constutional Monarchists.

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Assyria shall rise again!

Ashurbanipanal shall crush the thrones of the world beneath the wheels of his chariot!

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Yeah, well, I've talked to lots of them "ancient identity" folks on the web. The rest of the people in Iraq have been converted to arabism for quite a while, but they continue to hold for their ancient identity. As a jew, I can only try and support their effort. (Them and the Chaldeans, another of those 'ethnic' groups.)


The damn *******s shouldn't have destroyed the ancient Israelites' kingdoms, though.

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Assyria shall rise again!

Ashurbanipanal shall crush the thrones of the world beneath the wheels of his chariot!





When he's finished killing that lion, of course.

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They don't have much support now, but that can change with time. Che in his thread mentioned the Iraqis will be getting universal health care. If we improve the iraqis' situtation, if we see that they don't starve, if we see their kids get treated when they are sick.... we can gain pro-US sympathy and thus get more support for pro-US parties such as INC


Our virtual abandonment of Karzai doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

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The AECCP does not approve of this election. This is all a Imperialist trick. Yankee Dogs get out!






Except for AECCP members, who will rule Iraq.

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The INC is probably a suitable AECCP affiliate. Not only has its leader, Ahmed Chalabi, been convicted of a $200 million bank fraud in Jordan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Stor...,936304,00.html ), it's the Pentagon favorite.

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The INC is probably a suitable AECCP affiliate. Not only has its leader, Ahmed Chalabi, been convicted of a $200 million bank fraud in Jordan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Stor...,936304,00.html ), it's the Pentagon favorite.


Ramo, I can promise you that most military folks do NOT want the INC there, especially those of us in Intelligence/Cryptoanalysis.

Donnie Rumsfeld, however...

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Hmmm... I thought Rummy and the other neocons represented the military establishment (as opposed to the realists in the State Dept.).

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If Chalabi's out, who's the new favorite in the Pentagon?

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At this point, I'm not even sure what would be the best course of action. The situation is ****ed.

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Hmmm... I thought Rummy and the other neocons represented the military establishment (as opposed to the realists in the State Dept.).


SecDef != Pentagon Brass!

When Rumsfeld took over he wanted to "transform" the military, okey dokey.

His idea of Transformation was getting rid of a Carrier Battle group, and removing the Army's Heavy "Legacy" divisions, because we wouldn't be fighting a war in the future that requires Main Battle Tanks.

So, two wars later, in which for the first one 95% percent of the Air missions were flown over a landlocked country from for CVBGs, and the second, where 90% of the sorties were flown from 6 CVBGs and extensively used weapons designed for a war that never happened, he still wants to hose around with the military. He wanted to delay the construction of CVN(x) by 4 years, which would have dropped the number of availible CVBGs by 2.

Incidently, 60% of the USN was deployed last month, so I know he pissed off a lot of sailors, and I know there are a lot of soldiers who wake up sweating thinking about fighting any organized military with light "Stryker" vehicles.

The Military hates Rummie. He also pulls Intelligence estimates out of his ass and doesn't tell anyone where he got them from. He gripes and moans when US Naval commanders try to open Dialogue with their Iranian counterparts to prevent misunderstandings ("It isn't the military's purview") and then goes off and thinks he's the Secretary of State.

Last I heard, strictly unofficially, lotsa people in the service want there to be a brief occupation force whereby the neighboring countries have a major say in how things are run, not the Coalition (although Britain and the US will still be ultimately in charge) and not the UN, the regional countries. Yes, even Iran, who we spoke with during a regional summit regarding Afghanistan.

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