29-04-2003 03:26									#61
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by Japher


Very cute Tass. Surely you don't wrestle the gun out of your enemies arms, shoot 'em in the knees, then give them back there gun!/QUOTE]

Again, we were at war with the Iraqi people? I thought......

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Arguing with Tass is like slamming your fist into a brick wall. I got a headache now too...

	29-04-2003 03:27									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov (as peacefully as possible).

Hmm......To destroy Iraqi property, well, that just isn't very peaceful is it?

	29-04-2003 03:28									#64
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I think its best the U.S. just withdraw all troops immediately and let the U.N. take the heat for this.

There should be U.N. peacekeepers so everyone blames the U.N. for everything that goes wrong, not the U.S.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Acknowledging Freedom of Expression comes secondary to preserving public order in Iraq right now, since the fighting isn't over, the whereabouts of Hussein are unknown and there is near-anarchy. Until the infrastructure is there to allow such expression without the risk of violence, I think it's understandable to break up such demonstrations (as peacefully as possible).

First post Boris has said I completely agree with...

Tass, quite contradicting yourself.

	29-04-2003 03:28									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Arguing with Tass is like slamming your fist into a brick wall. I got a headache now too...

Yes, but at the end of the day......Your fist is the one thats bloody, and the brick wall is still standing

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quote: Again, we were at war with the Iraqi people? I thought......

OK Tass why don't you go over there and point out who are THE PEOPLE and who are SADDAM LOYALSISTS, PO'd ARMY LEFTOVERS, TERRORISTS, etc...

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quote: Read his whole post, you POS. Don't take my words out of context.

I did.

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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Yes, but at the end of the day......Your fist is the one thats bloody, and the brick wall is still standing

Until I blasted a hole in it with some dynamite. Your argument has been blown to bits...

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quote: Originally posted by Japher OK Tass why don't you go over there and point out who are THE PEOPLE and who are SADDAM LOYALSISTS, PO'd ARMY LEFTOVERS, TERRORISTS, etc...

Terrorist is relative (Bin Laden wasn't a terrorist till he turned on us), POd army leftovers.......Ill give you that.

But I highly doubt they were all army leftovers. And Saddam loyalists are part of the "people" too, just as Clinton or Bush or Mao or Stalin or Hitler or anyleadernamehere loyalists are.

Freedom of Opinion.

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Naw, Fez, a stiff wind should blow it over... Tass only addressed the argument I had listed as "Bad Argument" and completely ignored the "Good Argument".

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quote: Originally posted by Fez Until I blasted a hole in it with some dynamite. Your argument has been blown to bits...

But your hand is still the bloody one, Fez In fact, you've simply helped me spread the truth elsewhere with your "dynamite

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And, just as in labor union deals, we'll give them all a 6 week cooling down period before discussions are held. A party is not a good way to cool down.

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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 But your hand is still the bloody one, Fez In fact, you've simply helped me spread the truth elsewhere with your "dynamite

You are a liar... a complusive liar. If you want to play Iraqi Information Minister, you did a very good job at it. Mr. Sahaf.

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OK then:

quote: Originally posted by Japher We've got a spitting match here!!! Good Argument: IMO after all the problems in Bagdad due to large parties that turned into riots that then lead to Iraq hatred of the US because everything was getting trashed - breaking up the party was a good idea. Good preventative measueres.

And tell the Iraqis (intentionally or not) that "You can't have freedom of expression QUITE YET......."? Would that not cause resentment?

It was fifty people......We should've just allowed it to run its course.

	29-04-2003 03:33									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Hmm......To destroy Iraqi property, well, that just isn't very peaceful is it?

It's better than there being deadly violence.

Look, you know my position on the war itself, but now that we're engaged, the number one goal should be to protect the lives of as many people as possible, ours and theirs. Allowing pro-Saddam demonstrations when the war isn't even over is just plain stupid and asking for trouble we don't want.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov It's better than there being deadly violence.

The article mentions nothing of deadly violence. It was just a celebration, and if someone threw a stone or whatever, then we should come in. We occupy the city, it would be pretty easy.

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The Baathist party was clearly engaged in a variety of illegal and immoral activity. It is completely correct to limit support of illegal activity in any society.

Fez's arguments are right on.

Somebody please wake up Tass.

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quote: And, just as in labor union deals, we'll give them all a 6 week cooling down period before discussions are held.

Does that mean we send labor unionists back to their houses not to speak out against us until the six weeks are up? No......

quote: You are a liar... a complusive liar. If you want to play Iraqi Information Minister, you did a very good job at it. Mr. Sahaf.

More ad hominems

And I'm simply playing on your metaphor. But your comment obviously tells me I'm doing a good job in my study of the tactics of the Soviet Union, America, and China when it comes to propaganda

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Tassadar = Apolyton's [Dis]Information Minister

You are full of propaganda. Maybe you should study more about Sahaf because you are just like him. Your argument is full of holes and BS.

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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 The Baathist party was clearly engaged in a variety of illegal and immoral activity. It is completely correct to limit support of illegal activity in any society.

They supported SADDAM HUSSEIN.....They supported a person, not an action. Therefore, they supported no illegal thing.

And even then, millions of Americans support illegal activities within their own country.....Freedom of Speech again.

quote: Somebody please wake up Tass.

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quote: Originally posted by Fez Tassadar = Apolyton's [Dis]Information Minister You are full of propaganda. Maybe you should study more about Sahaf because you are just like him.

I'll do that

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You are starting to sound like Jimmy Carter and Fidel Castro at the same time, now Tass... WAKE UP!

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quote: Originally posted by Fez You are starting to sound like Jimmy Carter and Fidel Castro at the same time, now Tass... WAKE UP!

I'm a dictator yet I'm a nobel-winning peace activist........

Interesting Maybe I should lead Palestine

	29-04-2003 03:43									#85
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Tass: Maybe you should lock yourself in a jail cell and throw away the key.

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quote: Originally posted by Fez Tass: Maybe you should lock yourself in a jail cell and throw away the key.

But I'd much rather sit in a compound and be bombed by Israeli shell tanks.....and then become a myartr

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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 But I'd much rather sit in a compound and be bombed by Israeli shell tanks.....and then become a myartr

Well...if you must.

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a pissing contest...

i feel as if my eyes have just stepped in something...

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It looks like the contest is about over since Tass just volinteered to be bombed by the Israeli Army.

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A silly move by the Americans, but quite understandable, given the heat of the moment. Free speech is not an end in itself, it's way of ensuring responsible government. The Iraqis can say what they want, but it will have no effect on the governing of their country.