29-04-2003 08:55									#1
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http://www.msnbc.com/local/KXAS/A1592816.asp

quote: Southwest Pilots Fired For Flying Naked DALLAS, 4:53 p.m. CDT April 25, 2003 - Two Southwest Airlines pilots are now jobless after they allegedly flew a Boeing 737 without wearing their uniforms, or much of anything else, for that matter. According to the company, the incident happened months ago, but that it released the pilot and copilot after an investigation. One of the men reportedly claims that he removed his uniform because coffee was spilled on it, and that a flight attendant bringing paper towels and soda water to the cockpit was a witness. Southwest won't elaborate, but a spokesman said the matter is an internal one that is under appeal. However, some passengers say they can't imagine any situation that would explain the need to disrobe in flight. "Spilling coffee and two pilots flying naked, that doesn't add up to me," Clarence Hill said. Another passenger echoed that remark. "They did it once, they'll probably do it again," Sergio Mendoza Jr. said. "There has to be a reason why they were flying like that, too." According to the FAA, there are no rules against flying naked, although pilots do have to be dressed for all contingencies and emergencies when flying below 10,000 feet. Whatever the reason or details, Southwest has deemed this particular incident inappropriate. Meantime, the pilots are reportedly trying to get their jobs back.

Bold text mine. I don't know what to make of the spilled coffee part. Did they do it on purpose so they could have some kinky action with the flight attendant? Was it a threesome? There are questions that need to be answered here! We will find the truth!

	29-04-2003 08:58									#2
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I've always had a thing for flight attendants.

	29-04-2003 08:59									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker I've always had a thing for flight attendants.

But pilots?

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you guys don't understand.

Southwest is the smartest company out there. Our crappy goverment is bailing out airlines that can run themselves properly except southwest airline. They are running at a profit while everyone else operates at a loss.

So perhaps flying naked could save money on uniforms

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If you don't forbid nudity in the cockpit, then you have to allow adultery, bigamy, and polygamy as well.

	29-04-2003 16:25									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident So perhaps flying naked could save money on uniforms

Sounds like something for Hooters Air

	29-04-2003 18:33									#8
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Southwest Airlines does it right.

I don't believe they've had a crash in their existence.

	29-04-2003 18:44									#9
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Southwest is hurting too, right now.

	29-04-2003 18:51									#10
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They made a profit, again.
Not all businesses, especially airlines, are.

	29-04-2003 19:37									#11
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quote: Originally posted by uh Clem If you don't forbid nudity in the cockpit, then you have to allow adultery, bigamy, and polygamy as well.

How the heck do you make that connection?

Are all nudists adulterers? Do they all perform bigamy and polygamy?

Try thinking before you type next time eh?

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the "uh" isn't for nothing, you know.

	29-04-2003 20:06									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni Sounds like something for Hooters Air

Oh my god that's brilliant! Next time when I'm in the US.. I'm flying hooters air.

	29-04-2003 20:07									#14
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ah an in house joke. bugger.

	29-04-2003 20:34									#15
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Maybe boffing flight attendents is a contractual perk for the pilots so they can pay them less and have a better profit margin. Maybe being boffed by pilots is a contractual perk for the flight attendents so they can be paid less. Airlines are under a lot of pressure these days.

	29-04-2003 21:05									#16
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Southwest Airlines does it right. I don't believe they've had a crash in their existence.

They're a good airline but it helps that they service the better weather parts of the country preferentially.

	29-04-2003 21:17									#17
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Yeah, right.
Wind shears and tornadoes don't count for much.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand They made a profit, again. Not all businesses, especially airlines, are.

That doesn't mean they aren't hurting. Profits are low and every report I see sez that if AA goes down, the whole industry's gonna tumble, even Southwest.

BTW, I like flying with Southwest. More room than ATA or UA, and definately less expensive, plus they serve Jax.

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Southwest is excellent.

Compare them to American Airlines in recent days, which btw is headquartered in Dallas.
AA folding would suck wind; like that's needed.

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Bunnygrrl's best friend works at United. In both cases, horrible management has screwed the company. BG's friend is a counter person. They and the flight attendant's get paid jack squat. The only decent benefit is is dirt cheap travel. They want wage consession from people on a poverty wage. At least they have a union.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Yeah, right. Wind shears and tornadoes don't count for much.

I think icing is the more severe danger. Look at some statistics some time. San Diego has the most extreme flight path in the US (steep descent). But it has never had a major accident. Wonder why? Perfect weather...

	29-04-2003 22:14									#22
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You bonehead.
That is a real logical comeback to "wind sheers and tornados".
Citing perfect weather and no major accidents.

On the plus side, icing can be a danger, that is true; but you can use de-icer on ice.
Wind, of any means, can come up suddenly.

	29-04-2003 22:28									#23
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Slowwhand knows all about wind and hot air.

	29-04-2003 22:45									#24
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OSWELD!

No, overall ice is more widespread, and therefore more of a hazard, I would imagine.

HOWEVER, my phobia is over tornadoes.






BTW, glad your pictures from Olan Mills are ready.

	29-04-2003 22:50									#25
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And some people want to give these guys guns?

	29-04-2003 22:54									#26
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I would like to see these pilots in their interviews for their next jobs.

"So, what made you leave your last job?"

Pilot: "Uh, they didn't like the way I handled my stick."

Pilot: "I failed to adhere to the dress code... I mean, those damn wings hurt!"

	29-04-2003 23:02									#27
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Bunnygrrl's best friend works at United. In both cases, horrible management has screwed the company. BG's friend is a counter person. They and the flight attendant's get paid jack squat. The only decent benefit is is dirt cheap travel. They want wage consession from people on a poverty wage. At least they have a union.

The flight attendant's job is in high demand. The pay is not high. But it increases with seniority (even though performance level goes DOWN). And it is decent for basically schlepping trays. Also, the travel benefits have a real value. And the benefits are decent and better than being a waitress. This is all based on detailed study, Che.

Finally, whenever the airlines post openings for FA positions, they are bombarded with people wanting to do it. Even during the low unemployment years.

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When DOES a union worker's performance go up over time?
The more time, in the more secure, and the more they do notta.

Generally speaking, of course.

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The mechanics' performance goes up over time. They get more surly and such but the job is not a customer service job (like waitress). And experience helps them when they are troubleshooting problems.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand When DOES a union worker's performance go up over time? The more time, in the more secure, and the more they do notta. Generally speaking, of course.

Drop the stereotypes man. They really don't look good on you.