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yavoon
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yah olaf, 9-11 happened.
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yavoon
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9-11 changed a lot of american views. ur being really narrow minded about this olaf. were u unaware that 9-11 had a drastic change on a lot of american views or are u just trying to steup some kind of ground to fight on?
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
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I don't think it would have that much effect, since US troops are not the bulk of peacekeeping forces (except in Iraq, and maybe Afghanistan, but I'm not sure of it). So, it wouldn't make internal chaos more likely or not.
There are two areas where US troops have a cold-war-like deterrent role to foreign agression : Europe and East Asia. In Europe, they are now useless, since Russia doesn't intend to invade anytime soon. In East Asia, the pulling out of troops would probably give Kim more incentive to start a war and wreak havoc. Even if Kim doesn't do this, it will give much more leeway to China once it becomes militarily ambitious, and the pulling out of there could help starting a war too.
I don't think US troops stationed in the ME have any effect on the order/chaos there. And I'm not aware of any massive US stationaing in Africa.
In short : should the US pull out of everywhere in the world, things would be mostly unchanged, except in eastern Asia where war and chaos would be more likely.
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yavoon
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it changed our minds on how we have to deal w/ certain types of countries in the world.
is that plain enuff for u olaf?
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I Am Jeff
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New Jersey
Feb 2002
time: 00:27
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If the U.S. became isolationist, the world would be less safe and the chance for a WWIII becomes greater.
Lets point to some historical precedents. The U.S. was isolationist during the early 20th century. WWI broke out and for about the last year the U.S. was some what forced to join in and stop the war.
The U.S. was also Isolationist before WWII to an extent. Signs of Germany regaining power were clear when Hitler came to power. And Japan, who was bitter over the treaty to WWI, was angry at the U.S. The world saw what Hitler was doing in the early 30's but no one reacted. Nearing the end of the decade everyone knew the war was coming and this is when the U.S. started to build up and get ready for war.
Bottom line is, if there is no threat of punishment for doing something bad, people will do bad things. Becoming isolationist now, will not stop the fire of hatred towards the U.S. in the middle east. And then with the threat of retaliation gone, attacks would be greater. Not only to the U.S., but to Europe as well.
If the U.S. were to become Isolationist, something will fill the power vaccume. My choice for which would fill this is China. Would the world really be better if this happend? We all saw what china did with SARS, they denied its knowledge for weeks (maybe months). They are still too oppressive to help the world.
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Lawrence of Arabia
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of the Gulag Archipelago
Apr 2001
time: 06:27
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quote:
If the U.S. became isolationist, the world would be less safe and the chance for a WWIII becomes greater.
Lets point to some historical precedents. The U.S. was isolationist during the early 20th century. WWI broke out and for about the last year the U.S. was some what forced to join in and stop the war.
The U.S. was also Isolationist before WWII to an extent. Signs of Germany regaining power were clear when Hitler came to power. And Japan, who was bitter over the treaty to WWI, was angry at the U.S. The world saw what Hitler was doing in the early 30's but no one reacted. Nearing the end of the decade everyone knew the war was coming and this is when the U.S. started to build up and get ready for war.
Bottom line is, if there is no threat of punishment for doing something bad, people will do bad things. Becoming isolationist now, will not stop the fire of hatred towards the U.S. in the middle east. And then with the threat of retaliation gone, attacks would be greater. Not only to the U.S., but to Europe as well.
If the U.S. were to become Isolationist, something will fill the power vaccume. My choice for which would fill this is China. Would the world really be better if this happend? We all saw what china did with SARS, they denied its knowledge for weeks (maybe months). They are still too oppressive to help the world.
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If China wants to, let them. If it takes a country to be the worlds policemen, thats fine. But im tired of getting my country blamed for all of the worlds problems, and Im tired of being threatened by some tin pot dictator/ tin pot fundamentalist. If we pull our military out of everywhere, and stop meddeling in other people's crap, OBL and terrorism will disappear.
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