30-04-2003 08:46									#1
	Nuclear Weapons Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I am probably too cautious about using nuclear weapons in wartime, because I'm afraid the AI's will gang up on me.

The first nuke I used it CivIII was to start a war by denying a civ the use of uranium. The whole world declared war on me. Not good. I lost that game

Other time I used nukes is when I was at war already, and was nuked once. I then nuked back, and was fine. It seems 1 nuke/turn keeps the AI from declaring war.

Thoughts/experiences/wild stories??

	30-04-2003 09:02									#2
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Depends on difficulty level and your power. As well as who you are friends with. If you are MPP'ed with world powers (assuming you're not among the top 2) your repuation might take a hit but usually, the smaller powers can do nothing but watch in horror.

	30-04-2003 09:42									#3
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I understand that if you are the first to use a nuclear weapon then anyone you are not allied with will declare war on you. (I am do not know what MPP partners do). I understand you get a serious diplomatic hit with everyone.

	30-04-2003 10:43									#4
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MPP partners may wait after the MPP expire to declare war.

	30-04-2003 11:42									#5
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I almost always stockpile nukes and blast everyone the turn before my spaceship launch - so satisfying You have three or four cities producing SSCs, so the reat can quite happily produce ICMBs for 20-30 turns.

-Jam

	30-04-2003 11:42									#6
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If you have enough weapons stockpiled to nuke almost every worthwhile city in the word in one turn, this won't happen since you can send your modern armour to roll over what's left (which isn't much).

	30-04-2003 11:43									#7
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	30-04-2003 11:49									#8
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Why thankyou Agathon Mine too.

The trouble with trying to roll over everyone after a good nuking is that the cities are often too far away, and I've just blown up all the railways! When I've been playing total peaceful builder, and the ruddy Persians have been threatening me for techs and gold for 5,000 years, then the deserve the nasty surprise. I don't want their stinking cities either - the pollution in their territory is lowering theirscore - not mine.

-Jam

	30-04-2003 12:04									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon If you have enough weapons stockpiled to nuke almost every worthwhile city in the word in one turn, this won't happen since you can send your modern armour to roll over what's left (which isn't much).

I use exactly the same strategy.

Don't start the nuclear war with 1-2 nukes. Build, if possible the national defence wonder and built SAM missile battery in every city (important for you). Then build 15-20 ICBMs, or load the nukes into your nuklear submarines and go to the possition and wait.

	30-04-2003 14:53									#10
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I only launch nukes for one of 2 reasons;

1) There is a big naval stack approaching some undefended cities and the forces there cannot defend themselves without a nuke hit. Hits on naval targets cause no pollution (but the AI rarely stacks naval into a juicy target, unlike Civ2).

2) An enemy has recently captured a nearby city. The nuke removes 50% of his army and I can rush units to mop up.

One game there was an unexpected benefit - the city had lots of jungle around it. Nuking the city and depolluting took 30% or so less effort than clearing the jungle.

Apart from that, the AI attitude shift just isn't worth it - not for my games, anyway.

	30-04-2003 21:58									#11
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I love turning my planet into a desert planet, i'm doing it right now. The Suns dark red now! MUHAHAHAHA, i mite post a pic a little later, been real busy.