01-05-2003 00:12									#1
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What kind of map do we want?

Section 1
A) Huge map of planet
B) Regular map planet

Section 2
A) Customize Random Map
B) Have a CMN generate a map based on:
C) Huge planet
- large planet
- standard planet
- small planet
- tiny planet
- 30-50% ocean
- 50-70% ocean
- 70-90% ocean
- Strong erosive forces
- weak erosive forces
- average erosive forces
- abundant native life
- average native life
- rare native life
- sparse cloud cover
- average could cover
- dense cloud cover

Section 3
A) random map
B) Have a CMN make a fair map based on his judgement

this may look confusing, so i'll explain it. First of all: Only vote in 1 section. If you want to use the planet map, only vote in section 1. if you want to generate a map, vote in section 2 (you also have to choose your parameters). if you want the map to be a surprise, vote in section 3.

Example: you want a customized large map with average clouds, erosion and native life. you skip section 1, and vote in section 2:
A) Customize random map
skip B) as it does not apply
c) - large map
- average clouds
- average erosion
- average native life
etc.

skip section 3)

there, clear as mud 3 days.

	01-05-2003 00:50									#2
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Umm - just take a random map, and I'll go lie down for a bit.

-Jam

	01-05-2003 01:14									#3
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Any map with rare native. Let's keep the random elements down as much as we can.

	01-05-2003 01:57									#4
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I vote:

"Have a CMN make a fair map based on his judgement"

	01-05-2003 02:02									#5
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I voted

quote: Have a CMN make a map based on the following:

Standard Planet, 50-70% ocean, average everything except dense cloud cover, cause it gives nice high scores.

	01-05-2003 04:38									#6
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i vote have a CMN make a fair map. i was going to vote standard map of planet, but i guess we have to be considerate of the pirates

	01-05-2003 08:01									#7
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CMN make a fair map...

Especially thanks to the Pirates

	01-05-2003 13:48									#8
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*nod nod* Yes let a good CMN do it, because after playing with th terrain generator Monday, it's really hard to get some decent ocean shelves for us poor Pirates

Stupid terrain generator....where's the landmass type option ??

	01-05-2003 15:09									#9
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CMN make a fair map, preferably a huge one.

	01-05-2003 16:02									#10
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Voted to let CMN design it. Surprise and fairness. Probably hugh to give us all a chance to grow, average most things but 95% water

	01-05-2003 16:37									#11
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All you folks who vote CMN... not that I disagree, but where is such a critter found? A fair one at that?

	01-05-2003 17:50									#12
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I voted Section 2 B: Have a CMN make a map based on the following:

*Standard planet, though large will do fine as well. I'd like us to actually meet each other on the map...
*50-70% ocean. Let's give the Pirates some breathing room.
*Weak erosive forces. Nice rainy slopes and rocky highlands.
*Average native life. No particular reason.
*Dense cloud cover. Rainy tiles!

	01-05-2003 19:02									#13
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I really don't want a huge map, it would be boring, being ages until we meet people, and gives massive advantage to builder factions. It's like having either loads of water or very little would give advantages/disadvantages to the pirates. In order to have fairness, we need either a standard, or possibly large (at a pinch) map.

	01-05-2003 19:47									#14
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I agree with Drogue... I voted either large or huge just for the fact that builder factions would want the size, but military wouldn't.

Googlie is a great CMN and I think approaching him to do the map soon might be a good idea.

	01-05-2003 20:55									#15
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Well I voted "large map of the planet", but I will be fine with a CMN generated map.

So count my vote as 3B if planet map fails

	01-05-2003 21:09									#16
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I'm easy. Abstain.

	03-05-2003 01:42									#17
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Have a CMN generate a fair map. I want surprises.

	03-05-2003 02:33									#18
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Good idea. Not knowing is most realistic Can't wait now. Can we start team signup, since we know the 4 factions (or at least, the AI poll is done based on those 4 factions)

	03-05-2003 02:47									#19
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yep i think so. we can start just as soon as all the polls end (tomorrow) and we get private forums

	03-05-2003 03:14									#20
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Can't we start sign-ups here first, just to get an idea who is going for which. I would want to know who is in each before I choose, as I'm still a little undecided. I don't want to be with a bunch of people who I disagree though, that would suck.

	03-05-2003 03:25									#21
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yes, that's what i had in mind. i don't think i've been making myself clean in my posts lately

	03-05-2003 22:06									#22
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quote: Originally posted by TKG i don't think i've been making myself clean in my posts lately

That would be clear (and yes, I'm pretty sure it was intended, but I thought I'd be a smart-ass )

	03-05-2003 22:09									#23
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* Method hangs head in shame

much as i'd like to say it was, that was not intentional

	04-05-2003 00:06									#24
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Poor TKG... tired maybe? Or just overly excited about the next game?

	04-05-2003 00:59									#25
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ok, so we have this saying our CMN is supposed to make a "fair" map...should we maybe decide the size, at least?

	04-05-2003 01:16									#26
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yeah... maybe... a new poll?

	04-05-2003 17:21									#27
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No, I think let the CMN decide everything. If we don't know the size, as we wouldn't with a real planet (although kight have an idea, so maybe give CMN some parameters) we don't know how near we are to anyone else. Could be more fun.

Personally I would say let the CMN decide, but don't pick either extremes.

	04-05-2003 19:46									#28
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I dare say somwone ought to have a thrown a glance out of the window as we approached Chiron. We do too have an idea about the planet size.

	04-05-2003 21:04									#29
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Yes, an idea, which I said. Thus we can narrow it down a bit. But we won't know exactly what size. That is why I say let CMN decide, but exclude the extremes, of give the CMN a choice of 2 or 3.