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To be edited by the Consuls and Ministers.

Status:
- researching ??? Increase to 100%.
- Luxury Slider at 0%
- 31 gold cash, will be -1 gpt if science to 100%.

Urgent questions & tasks:
FAM: Negotiations with CFC for the wheel?
FAM: Exchanges with CGD and GCA should be going through.
MoL: Need a name for worker 3.
SCI: What do we research? Or do we set to zero and rack up some cash pending research agreements?

Unit movement & actions:
N1 'MerZenary' to move 7 (NW)
N2 'Mao' fortifies in Apolyton* see later on
W2 'BigFree' fortifies
W3 'Alva' to move 4 (W)
W4 'Theseus' to attack Sumerian camp 3 (SE)
W5 'BFW' to move 8 (N)
W6 'Hagbart' fortified in Apolyton
W7 'WhiteBandit' should fortify for combat
W8 rename to Warrior8 an to move 4 (W)* see later on

Economy:
Apolyton building settler.
Mingapulco building worker.
Banatopia completes worker. Begins granery.

WF:
Apolyton to 2, 3, 33, 9 **
Mingapulco to 6, 99 **
Bananatopia at 9

Workers
Worker Dan continues mine (1).
Worker 2 rename 'Monkee' (when available to change) continues mine (1).
Worker 3 moves 8 4 4 to Mingapulco 9

Diplomacy:
CDG: NAP in effect. Tech swap in effect; we give WC and wheel for IW.
CFC: Negotiating...
GCA: NAP in effect (fm Turn 29). Tech swap in effect; we give WC and wheel for writing.

Togas: Offer Wheel + Warrior Code to both CDG and GCA this turn. Do not hit accept.

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Discussion and basic reporting to follow. See the topped thread for comprehensive results.

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Here's one suggestion for a worker- "Kentonio" in honor of our CDG enemy's leader

As for another idea how about... "TheGreatBanana"

Put the banana and it's good luck to work for us

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Uhhhh...

Could we come up with something else?

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hi ,

i resent the fact there is a unit with my name at this time , please rename it

have a nice day

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Here's one suggestion for a worker- "Kentonio" in honor of our CDG enemy's leader

As for another idea how about... "TheGreatBanana"

Put the banana and it's good luck to work for us


How about... fooker for Worker 3? Worker 4 could be Sleww. 5 could be kitty. 6...

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hi ,

i resent the fact there is a unit with my name at this time , please rename it

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I have a SP game in which I rename all captured worker's "panag"; I hope you don't mind.

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Just choose a theme and name all future workers after that.

What about the Simpsons? The Muppets? Dilbert?

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I think the unit's name expresses the feelings of many ISDGers appropriately.

Have a nice day.

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I have a SP game in which I rename all captured worker's "panag"; I hope you don't mind.


hi ,

, i dont mind at all , ....

but what bothers me are two things , one ; that some people says that i asked for it , ....
two ; i dont want to be a warrior , i want to be an NM !

so if you want to name the next nm after panag i would be greatly honored

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...only if the warrior dies you have a warrior's temprament- if I ever get around to writing you into the story, I can have some 'fun' with you

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hmm... I'll think up some other names for the worker- I know a few good ones from apolyton history if you like... remember "Jesse" and "Mr Mantequilla" ... pure spam-bots who merely asked for soup on the OT... either would do well for a worker's name

Or we could always name the workers humiliating names such as "Hitler" "Stalin" "Pol Pot" etc. and then wehn we go to war wiht CDG rename Hitler=Kentonio, Stalin=GenghisFarb, etc

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EDIT::::: Please Make the worker panag, sicne he requested it.

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And I'm farily certain that at least someone requested it for you panag... I do agree that it wasn't you, however... but someone requested it, I think. I'm pretty certain I just didn't decide to name a unit that off the top of my head

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and just read you post in the lexicography thread- a worker would be just fine- and since they are more common than warriors- that will work out... now to work on Warrior8's name... I'll see if anyone has any requests and if not, try to make something up

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Problem right off.

GCA has offered writing, but we don't have the wheel at this point in the turn (pre production). I hit escape thinking I will go back and send the trade from in turn, and their offer is not there. Is there a way around this?

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After some discussion in channel about our options (or lack thereof) the following decision was made:

Offer Wheel + Warrior Code to both CDG and GCA this turn. Do not hit accept.

We will contact them both and tell them to offer their respective techs and hit accept. We will apologize to GCA and explain to them what happened with the game. The order that the programing does things in screwed us, as it seems you do not actually DISCOVER the tech you finished researching until the turn begins, and the turn does not begin until you finish with the offers that were made during the other turns.

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One last thing before I go to bed...

One way or another we need to decide what to research ASAP.

I believe Map Making had the highest tally a while ago, but things may have changed, and the diplomats need to see what's up with CDG and CFC.

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MoW orders from Trip in chat.

BFW moves N
WhiteBandit moves S
Theseus attacks barb camp
W8 moves W
MerZenary moves NW
Alva moves W
BF fortifies

/Edit. I had not told Trip about the barb 2 from WhiteBandit. Wwb should fortify (on hill with river defense).

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-- Situation
Horses 4 7 from Mingapulco
Cimmerian warror 4 4 from W8 (7 7 7 from Mingapulco)
Sumerian barb camp 3 from Theseus with one warrior
Sumerian warrior 2 from WhiteBandit

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Trip bashed off orders pretty quickly in chat. After thinking about it some, maybe it would be an idea to move W8 back to Apolyton and move Mao out to hunt the barb down. It is the mercs we want to see promoted, yes?

btw, I am inclined to wait and leave it for vondrack to play the turn. This gives the folks at the Foreign Office time to round up the likely suspects at CDG and maybe CFC to see if a three way tech deal is possible.

If no news from them before vondrack's am, then we 0 the slider and wait for writing so we can go MM soon. Yes?

/Edited, because I'm too tired and forgot we can't start MM this turn because we don't have writing yet. Duhh.

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/Edit. I had not told Trip about the barb 2 from WhiteBandit. Wwb should fortify (on hill with river defense).

I agree - our odds would be less than 75%, which (considering our wonderful luck in this game) is too low. There is no need to risk at this point. Let's wait for the barbarian warrior to cross the river - we will then be at almost 85%, which should - hopefully! - be enough to slain him.

As for the Writing situation... it was actually not us who got screwed... it was GCA - as THEY will not receive the techs on the next turn (unless we send our techs as "accepted" now, that is). We would not get Writing this turn either way... that said, it may be an idea to counter their Writing offer with Warrior Code, sending The Wheel separate as "accepted" - that way, if they accept on their end, things will happen as they were expected to. I would personally be inclined to do things this way. Shows we are determined to fulfil our part of treaties, even if it means throwing in a little more extra trust.

OTOH, offer both techs without accepting to CDG, of course...

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OK, report posted.

Few things were done differently from what was posted in the first post of this thread:

W7 'WhiteBandit' was fortified on the hill rather then sent to attack uphill, across a river. Odds will be better if we wait for a better position to engage that barb there.

W8 'not-panag' moved back to Apolyton (to keep the pop happy there), while N2 'Mao' moved SW-W (1-4) to get closer to the barb we spotted N of the horse tile. Mercs can walk around barbs freely, engaging (almost) at will, while warriors have to be very careful, as they may easily get "unlucky", as demonstrated more than once in this game (everybody, spend a minute and remember W1 'BetaHound', please ). Theseus' lucky survival last turn was yet another reminder to risk our warriors as little as possible.

And finally, due to the odd quirk in the game, we had no chance to properly counter GCA's Writing offer with our techs (as technically spoken, we discovered Wheel only after having to handle their offer). After much debating in the chatroom, it was decided to sort of "ignore" their offer ingame and send our own, "unaccepted" offer of WC+Wheel. Ambassador WhiteBandit was instructed (by a PM from BigFree) to send a message to GCA and explain what happened and why we were not able to counter their offer as planned.

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Good move not to attack accross a river and up on a hill; unless your playing on Chieftain, it's not a good idea with a Warrior on Warrior situation. That Barb may even attack WWhitebandit, causing a promotion in between turns!

The game mechanics suck in that we didn't discover TW until after we dealt with the diplo screen to start the turn off with; how friggin' annoying is that! Bad design by Firaxis on that one, it shouldn't be like that at all.

"not-panag"

I always thought that 'not-panag' would be Prime Rib; which is 'not-spam'!

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And I'm farily certain that at least someone requested it for you panag... I do agree that it wasn't you, however... but someone requested it, I think. I'm pretty certain I just didn't decide to name a unit that off the top of my head

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and just read you post in the lexicography thread- a worker would be just fine- and since they are more common than warriors- that will work out... now to work on Warrior8's name... I'll see if anyone has any requests and if not, try to make something up


hi ,

if you have read all the post's thou shall understand , ... the reason i am upset with it is when i got a couple mails , ..... and all the other things that flew my way , ....


make me a NM or a worker , ...

you have ideas plenty for your 8th warrior



"warrior not panag"



would someone now put a city near those horses , right there where the land gets narrow , this way we would have them hills and mountain

who-ah , cash is on our way

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