17-06-2003 22:45									#31
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Yes, it is valid only if you have at least two cities.

If you have only 1 city (with or without a Palace) the city defender is invulnerable.

	18-06-2003 02:29									#32
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Kewl, that would explain some things.

	18-06-2003 05:39									#33
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Zenon,
W. Keenan's barb. paper version 1.2 (in GL) works now.

	18-06-2003 12:58									#34
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Before playing MP with 2.42 I often recognized that barbs stood for centuries in front of an empty city, but attacked the same round a defender was built inside the city. Was this a bug in an early version or did someone make the same experience?

	18-06-2003 17:13									#35
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I've seen that a couple of times, but I've also seen them take/destroy the city.

	28-06-2003 00:14									#36
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At deity, raging hordes, I research horseback riding first. After a warior and a settler, the city builds a horseman for barb defense and to quiet unrest. Any barb can usually be dispatched by the horse unless they are on a mountain. I keep the horse in the city, and let the warrior go exploring. The mobility of a horse lets me reinforce a city nearby quickly. Also, a horse is cheaper to rush than a dip.

	28-06-2003 00:43									#37
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But then why listen to the only man ever to get his capital bribed by the AI in the history of civ. /jk

	02-07-2003 05:05									#39
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Ouch! That was cold!

	02-07-2003 15:03									#40
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Not really, with a /jk and a smiley. Since Geofelt did not post after I hope he didn't agree with you.

	02-07-2003 17:31									#41
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Even a j/k and a doesn't soften that one up enough.

	02-07-2003 18:26									#42
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Well you laughed.

Geofelt: hope you saw the funny side.........I'm sure we've all got more embarrassing stories.

	02-07-2003 20:19									#43
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Well, it was funny.
Yes, we all have our own moments,
but nothing tops the guy that tried to kill the buffalo special.

	02-07-2003 20:19									#44
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I only learned last year about roading trade specials like Gold to get an extra arrow...

	10-07-2003 17:04									#45
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It was funny, but it was still cold.

	10-07-2003 17:13									#46
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Now I feel bad. It was a joke dammit!

	11-07-2003 00:55									#47
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nay, Geofelt has been around a long time.... i am sure has a good sense of humour

	11-07-2003 01:47									#48
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I'm sure he found it funny too.
as much as I think Spike feels bad about it.

	11-07-2003 06:06									#49
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spike doesn't feel bad, hes just getting his sympathy +1's in

	11-07-2003 16:04									#50
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever spike doesn't feel bad, hes just getting his sympathy +1's in

What's your excuse?

	11-07-2003 17:37									#51
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Desperation

	11-07-2003 17:45									#52
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You two are well ahead of Mr P now. Perhaps there is more of a battle amongst yourselves than you care to admit.

	11-07-2003 18:20									#53
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Yes I think they have a little bit too much friendly rivallry going on.

	11-07-2003 18:46									#54
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It is fun to irritate him

	11-07-2003 18:50									#55
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I must agree with rah on that point

	13-07-2003 14:42									#56
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Back on topic would be nice in this thread

	13-07-2003 22:27									#57
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After years of chasing kings, just to see them disappear, it would be knice to know the logic for this. ANYONE want to take a stab at it. Or for any other barb vanishing.

I know barbs will dissapear on the artic.

	14-07-2003 21:07									#58
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Conjecture:
(x) distance from nearest city or civ unit?
(y) number of turns after loosing accompanying military unit?

Seems like if I can keep close enough, and chase him into a nearby dead end, I can get him if I'm quick enough. Don't know exactly what the (x) or (y) is, though...

	14-07-2003 23:48									#59
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I doubt x is important. Form experiences on large worlds after you've uncovered the whole map.

Y is infered in the manual. But I'm wondering if it's a set value or if it's a percentage throw every turn. My experience leads me to believe it's not a set value.

	15-07-2003 01:50									#60
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I'll take a guess that barb leaders hang around longer at lower levels than higher levels -- or at least it seems to to me with the Prince level games that I often play.

But I agree, at the poles, they disappear their next turn without attacking, and at other times, it seems like a percentage chance per turn that they'll wander...and then perhaps beam themselves up. (Except when they discover an empty fort.)