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Paradox
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Kent, UK + Cape Town,S.A
Dec 2002
time: 05:27
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So here i am in Rep with a size 12 city going along nicely in a OCC game....
I have Shakes and a Sewer and just sold my Colosseum and Temple, food surplus of 1. My luxuries are set at 30% and my pop attitude is 6 happy 6 content. No Problem. I Celebrate...or so the computer says but no city growth?? next turn still nothing.....
Why? Seems to make no sense or is this some bug i aint seen yet that may have to do with my particular city setup?
Eagerly awaiting responses so I may continue my quest 
Last edited by Paradox on 01-05-2003 at 23:18
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solo
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Lowell, MA USA
Jan 2001
time: 05:27
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Are you supporting more than one unit outside of the city causing extra unhappiness? If so, this could prevent growth by making the first citizen unhappy.
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Paradox
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Kent, UK + Cape Town,S.A
Dec 2002
time: 05:27
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No on the contrary i only have 2 units in my city...a NONE archer and a supported warrior.
Whats more confusing is the the fact that according to Pauls OCC guide
"...Once Shakespeare’s is built, you are guaranteed a city of content citizens for the rest of the game. As a result, the temple and the colosseum are no longer needed. Sell these off. This will help you buy a sewer system, which is the next thing you need to build. Bump the luxuries back up to begin WLTCD. With a sewer system, you can go to size 21. You may have food to support more people, but under a Republic without Hanging Gardens, size 21 is the max you can grow using WLTCD. "
Now i did exactly that, sold my col, temple and aqua since i needed the gold badly....but NO growth even tho i have a sewer. Odd?
Ive tested by playing a few turns ahead and building both the col+aqua again and indeed now the city grows!
But why wont it grow without these....surely Shakes takes care of happiness and sewer is all that is required to move past 12 citizens????
I think i may still have needed the aquaduct! 
Last edited by Paradox on 02-05-2003 at 00:52
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Elephant
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Phila PA
Aug 2002
time: 00:27
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Yes: any growth beyond 8 requires Aquaduct; any growth beyond 12 requires Aquaduct AND Sewers. When you get to 21 dont sell them off: you can usually get into the mid 20s in a last burst after you switch to Democracy and have finished transforming the land with Engineers. Sometimes I also do another round after Farmland/Refrigeration.
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solo
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Lowell, MA USA
Jan 2001
time: 05:27
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The missing aqueduct answers this question, but remember that even with Shakepeare's growth can be stopped if that first citizen does not start out as being content. This is not usually problem in OCC unless a lot of units outside of the city are being supported by it.
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rjmatsleepers
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quote:
Originally posted by DrSpike
Nah try it out in save where you have wltcd (I can find one if you don't have one), as long as you have enough happy people you only need 1 food. |
But it can have the side effect that if there are no more food squares available the additional person means that city has a food deficit and starts consuming its stored food.
RJM at Sleepers
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rjmatsleepers
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quote:
Originally posted by War4ever
the -1 food from the unwanted growth to get there can as SG states be negated with a simple food caravan...
believe it or not, food caravans play a roll that is sometimes forgotten |
IIRC the food caravan fills the food store. At size 23 (or whatever) this will last a long time. But,
a) what effect does it have on supply and demand lists?
b) can it displace an existing trade route?
RJM at Sleepers
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01-05-2003 23:12
. I presume your'e referring to SP mode or does this apply to MP only?
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