02-05-2003 21:57									#1
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Find out about the science plans here.

Please discuss what to research next.

I suppose Map Making has our priority right now, but things may change if we can make tech deals with other civs.

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	02-05-2003 22:21									#2
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Looking at the Science list thread, I'd sugest that after Mapmaking, we reserach Currency. This will allow:

1. In the event of war, more $ for upgrades.
2. In the event of peace, a higher % of income to go towards science.
3. Also in the event of peace, we can probably get at least Literature + Mystisim for it in trade.

	03-05-2003 00:19									#3
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Map Making now, then we should go for Republic (if no other team does). The sooner we get Republic, the better.

	03-05-2003 01:16									#4
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I agree with the MoW. Currency IS good, don't get me wrong- but I think we'll be busy building jungle choppers and townships for more than long enough to catch up on Currency later. Let's get out of Despotism so we can properly utilize our worker's skills in improving land.

	03-05-2003 18:39									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Map Making now, then we should go for Republic (if no other team does). The sooner we get Republic, the better.

hi ,

seconded

then we should get aquaducts , .....

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	03-05-2003 19:59									#6
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I agree with Trip, though Polytheism-Monarchy would work just as well for me.

	03-05-2003 21:29									#7
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Too soon to direct reserach out of Despotism:

1. It's too soon to direct reserach towards Republic; we don't have the happiness structures (TEMPLES!) built to support it yet.

2. As for Monarchy, monarchy allows a 3rd military garrision as police but cuts the free units from 4 per town down to 2 per town , which would be a burden on our revenue with only 3 town.

	03-05-2003 22:04									#8
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn Too soon to direct reserach out of Despotism: 1. It's too soon to direct reserach towards Republic; we don't have the happiness structures (TEMPLES!) built to support it yet. 2. As for Monarchy, monarchy allows a 3rd military garrision as police but cuts the free units from 4 per town down to 2 per town , which would be a burden on our revenue with only 3 town.

hi ,

well we can always wait till each or most of the cities have a temple build , ......

its a high prized tech , so lots of things can be build then , ... and we can build those temples faster with a republic , ....

its also a great tech to trade with , .....

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	04-05-2003 04:44									#9
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , well we can always wait till each or most of the cities have a temple build , ...... its a high prized tech , so lots of things can be build then , ... and we can build those temples faster with a republic , .... its also a great tech to trade with , ..... have a nice day

Republic and Monarchy build at same rate and have same corruption rate. The only difference is unit support (none for Republic) and the fact that Republic produces one extra commerce on every tile that is worked that already produces commerce.

Unless we plan to attack with a lot of units, then Republic is a better choice, IMO,since the research cost of Monarchy is 24 compared to Republics 28, the amount of commerce spent to get have a Monarchy for a while is cost prohibitive. Since it is likely that a swithch to Republic would be made anyways in the near future Remember, there is no WW in MP.

We have an awesome defensive UU; lets key on that and REX like rabbits! We can keep defense on the front lines up to a point that would likely keep CDG off of us and allow for continued growth both North and especially SouthWest.

	04-05-2003 19:29									#10
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree Republic and Monarchy build at same rate and have same corruption rate. The only difference is unit support (none for Republic) and the fact that Republic produces one extra commerce on every tile that is worked that already produces commerce. Unless we plan to attack with a lot of units, then Republic is a better choice, IMO,since the research cost of Monarchy is 24 compared to Republics 28, the amount of commerce spent to get have a Monarchy for a while is cost prohibitive. Since it is likely that a swithch to Republic would be made anyways in the near future Remember, there is no WW in MP. We have an awesome defensive UU; lets key on that and REX like rabbits! We can keep defense on the front lines up to a point that would likely keep CDG off of us and allow for continued growth both North and especially SouthWest.

hi ,

, one Q , what would happen to our cities when we go in the change of the gov form , .....

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	04-05-2003 22:15									#11
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Well, since we're not religious we'd go into anarchy which would termorarly stunt our production and science. I don't know if you knew this but in Civ2 the turns of anarchy were year-related, it was not a random event, depending on the year that you started the anarchy there would be from 1-5 turns of anarchy.

Perhaps in Civ3 it is the same, but I have never bothered to find out. Perhaps it would be wise to start experimenting...

	04-05-2003 23:20									#12
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It's random (1-3or4?) with modifiers for large numbers of cities.

	05-05-2003 07:45									#13
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Uh, considering we have NMs, don;t we want to get out of despotism pretty soon?

	05-05-2003 07:47									#14
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Not just considering we have NMs, considering we are Carthage and our business is building (at least for now) we should try and get to Republic ASAP.

	05-05-2003 07:54									#15
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Agreed... when should we have 2 luxuries connected?

	05-05-2003 07:59									#16
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The incense will be connected very soon; the dye will be a while yet, I'm afraid. They are far in the jungle. Take a look at some city placement proposals; you can judge from those.

	05-05-2003 20:05									#17
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree The incense will be connected very soon; the dye will be a while yet, I'm afraid. They are far in the jungle. Take a look at some city placement proposals; you can judge from those.

hi ,

, could we now build a couple workers with a priority mission to go after that dye

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	05-05-2003 20:25									#18
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Uh... A) I think this is the SCIENCE thread....

B) None of our cities will stay large enough to need/benefit from a second luxury (incense being the first one) with the current rate of worker/settler production- we have much better things for our workers to be doing.