04-05-2003 05:47									#1
	Need Urgent Help With Making Scenarios and Maps Increase Your PM Length

Ive been struggling for days to create a scenario and have been frustrated to no end. Ideally I'd like to create a PBEM scenario for a friendly game among friends and the maps I'd like to create cannot be done in one sitting so I need to be able to work on a map and then save it to work on it again later. This is what happens:

After working on the map in the editor window I click "save scenario" or even "save scenario as". It prompts me to type in a name for the scenario, so I do: for example "Meatheads scenario". Then it prompts to save the game in one of the folders which I do.

On trying to load this scenario back up without having even closed the program (or even after closing program and reloading) I click on the file to load and this message comes up:

"Unable to locate the scenario that created this saved game. Looking for "Meatheads scenario".

Nothing can be done after that.

I've downloaded the 1.2 hack patch and ran it (prompts me saying its modified CTP succesfully).

Same thing happens if I download maps from this website and insert them into a saved game folder - says it can't find the scenario that created the saved game.

I've tried copying files around inside the program from saved games to the 'map' folder and 'scen' folder. No luck.

Can't be a language problem as I've seen in other posts, since I speak English and am using the original English store bought CTP program.

Can anybody help me out? All I want to do is create maps and scenario's that I can save half way through building them and load them agan later to finish working on them. What am I doing wrong?

Appologies if the answer to this is posted somewhere else but I've looked for hours and haven't found it. Dierct me to it please if tis somewhere out there.

Thanking you in advance for your time in this mater,

Andy

	04-05-2003 20:05									#2
	Got spare money?

You could try to use save games to save the map in between or try to load the scenario as you would do it if the scenario would be finished.

-Martin

	04-05-2003 20:28									#3
	Support Apolyton

Thanks for your help Martin, but neither of those work. I can't save the game in the map edit mode unless I click the "Save Scenario As" button. If I close the map edit mode and save it regularly it still says it can't find the scenario from which it was created when I attempt to reload it. Either way same result.

Let me ask you guys this - if you want to create a scenario, don't you just click "Save Scenario As" and then reload it later?

If that works for everyone else then there has to be something wrong with either some files in my program or the way they are strung together. I know nothing about stringing them so if anybody with knowledge can inform us I'd be over the moon with joy.

	05-05-2003 06:08									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by Andy Jackson Thanks for your help Martin, but neither of those work. I can't save the game in the map edit mode unless I click the "Save Scenario As" button. If I close the map edit mode and save it regularly it still says it can't find the scenario from which it was created when I attempt to reload it. Either way same result. Let me ask you guys this - if you want to create a scenario, don't you just click "Save Scenario As" and then reload it later? If that works for everyone else then there has to be something wrong with either some files in my program or the way they are strung together. I know nothing about stringing them so if anybody with knowledge can inform us I'd be over the moon with joy.

You need to save the game as you go, not in scenario, but as a regular map. also make sure you have at least the starting positions set at a minimum.

IIRC, dont save in the cheat menu,..i.e..."save scenario as" or save scenario" until all changes have been made, then save the map that way.

Also, you need to already have a scenario made..i.e. "Meatballs scenario".

You would have already have had that scenario set up.

Peace

Grandpa Troll

	05-05-2003 07:41									#5
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Alas, all has been figured out. The struggle that I was really having was that I did not have a scenario pack or scenario pre-programed, nor did I have any clue how to do it. Furthermore the Readme files that come with the game don't tell you anything useful in how to actually set up a scenario or scenario pack (yes, there is a difference as I've just found out this evening.)

Anyways, if any other newcomers are struggling with this than all can be explained at the link listed below. Take time to print off the text and read through it carefully as its a lot of excellent information. I've only touched the tip of the ice-burg.

Anways, without any more rambling, go here if you want to learn how to make your own scenario's and scenario packs as well as a whole tone of other stuff:

http://www.geocities.com/jbtwuk/ACCTPSD.txt

	06-05-2003 04:08									#6
	Support Apolyton

I'm glad you found my explanation useful .

Just FYI it does in fact tell you in a readme, but it's the readme which comes with the v1.2 patch - it's called readme.doc, I believe in the help directory - a word document which has as its first line:
Civilization: Call to Power, version 1.2
The relevant info is in the "Advanced user notes" section at the bottom.

	06-05-2003 05:54									#7
	Put an end to popups!

Found it very useful indeed. I remeber some file somewhere (the example scenario???) saying go look in the readme to find out how to do that, but then when I went there I just couldn't see the explanation I was looking for. Perhaps subconciously I just didn't want to believe it. I guess some people need more than a finger pointing the way, they actually need to be carried...

Cheers again,

A