Apolyton Archive  |  Preserved copy of the Apolyton Civilization Site and its forums as they stood in September 2005. Read-only; nothing here can be posted to or replied to.  |  Forum index |  About this archive |  The 1998–2001 UBB forums
Today on Apolyton WARDELL INTERVIEW PROMO A.C.S. HISTORY CHAPTER 4 GET CIV4 /w FREE PLUS! A.C.S. PHOTO GALLERY GET A.O.M. V1.1
Apolyton Civilization Forums
main| civ2| civ3| civ4| smac| ctp2| ron| moo3| galciv| galciv2| alt| about|
ApolytonPLUS | register | search | faq | new posts | pm (-/-) | upload | members
hall of fame new! | civgroups | civgroups news | interviews | the column | radio | chat | directory | news | store | PLUS
Apolyton Civilization Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.0.3 Apolyton Civilization Forums > Other Games > Master of Orion I/II > Never seen this before
Show a Printable Version | Email This Page to Someone! | Receive updates to this thread | Report this to Apolyton news!

bottom of page
  
Author
Thread    < Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
Iasius is offline Iasius
Warlord
Germany
Jan 2003
time: 05:27
  Old Post 06-05-2003 02:00
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#1 Report this post to a moderator
Never seen this before Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

In all the years and thousands of moo2 games I've played, I have never seen an invading Space Dragon ask for money to spare a system. Cool, a feature I've never seen before. I didn't think there were any surprises left for me there.
So, was I lucky all that time, or is that a pretty rare event? Or both?

vmxa1 is offline vmxa1
Deity
Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:27
  Old Post 06-05-2003 02:40
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#2 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I can not say as I normally play with event off.

Tuberski is offline Tuberski
Emperor
ACK!!! PTHBBPPPTTT!!!!
Feb 2002
time: 23:27
  Old Post 06-05-2003 06:26 Visit Tuberski's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#3 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

As far as I can recall, the Space Dragon has ALWAYS asked me for money to spare a system.

ACK!

Harry Seldon is offline Harry Seldon
King
Birmingham, AL
Oct 2002
time: 05:27
  Old Post 06-05-2003 17:33
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#4 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

How can he build his hoard without gold? At least when you gave him money, he left your system alone for a little while.

Kaptain Ken is offline Kaptain Ken
Warlord
Pasadena, CA
Feb 2003
time: 05:27
  Old Post 07-05-2003 01:06
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#5 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Guess I will have to try with events once again, haven't used them for the last few years. I know there are some very rare ones that I never experienced, and its sounds like a good change.

Daz is offline Daz
Prince
of the wasteland.
Jan 2003
time: 05:27
  Old Post 14-05-2003 18:48
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#6 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

uhm, I think I remember being able to choose, after you pay of course, where the dragon should go.... like an enemy system....

Gilgamensch is offline Gilgamensch
King
France
Jun 2002
time: 06:27
  Old Post 14-05-2003 20:29
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#7 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton

Never had this one before, even when I had random events turned on, it never occured, but that might have been before I upgraded from 1.2...... SO they might have changed it............

GameGeek is offline GameGeek
Chieftain

Nov 2004
time: 05:27
  Old Post 18-11-2004 02:44
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#8 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

This isn't related to the space dragon, but I do wonder if anyone's seen this before. The Orion system is almost always near the center of the galaxy. Once, though, I found it almost at the edge of the screen. Never had seen it before, haven't seen it since.

Anyone else ever see this?

vmxa1 is offline vmxa1
Deity
Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:27
  Old Post 18-11-2004 04:29
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#9 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Not that I recall. I should mention that in Moo1 Orion can be any place.

GePap is offline GePap
King
of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:27
  Old Post 18-11-2004 23:28
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#10 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Everytime a traveling space dragon has come my way, they ask for money to attack a different system- and 500 is not that much, so I usually pay, why not?

That said, I find eels more of a pain when they blockade a system and start spawining. Thought the Space Amoeba swallowing your planet and turning it toxic is horrible- in one pre-warp game this happened to my homeworld early on, and sunk the whole game.

GameGeek is offline GameGeek
Chieftain

Nov 2004
time: 05:27
  Old Post 18-11-2004 23:45
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#11 Report this post to a moderator
Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Yeah, I've had the spawning eel ruin a game.

GameGeek is offline GameGeek
Chieftain

Nov 2004
time: 05:27
  Old Post 11-12-2004 22:03
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#12 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton

I know that the Antarans are supposed to attack at random, but I had a recent game where it sure didn't seem random. I played about 200 turns, and I was attacked by the Antarans 20-30 times. Every time I turned around, one of my colonies was being pounded by them. Totally ravaged my empire.

vmxa1 is offline vmxa1
Deity
Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:27
  Old Post 11-12-2004 22:21
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#13 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I don't think I ever saw them attack 30 times in a game. It is more like 6-10 times.

GameGeek is offline GameGeek
Chieftain

Nov 2004
time: 05:27
  Old Post 11-12-2004 22:45
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#14 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

That's why it's in the "never seen this before" thread. It may not have reached 30 times, but it was more frequent than I've ever seen. 6-10, I'd expect. 12-15, which I'm not sure I've ever seen, I'd grumble. This, I lost.

Last edited by GameGeek on 11-12-2004 at 23:05

vmxa1 is offline vmxa1
Deity
Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:27
  Old Post 11-12-2004 23:53
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#15 Report this post to a moderator
Tired of ads?

Were you dusting their attackers each time? If not, that may be what allowed them to return sooner. Losing all their attackers, means they need time to rebuild.

So you would have to be large enough to be the one attacked, but weakly defended to let them have some survivors.

GameGeek is offline GameGeek
Chieftain

Nov 2004
time: 05:27
  Old Post 12-12-2004 00:13
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#16 Report this post to a moderator
Suffering from ads?

quote:
Originally posted by vmxa1
Were you dusting their attackers each time? If not, that may be what allowed them to return sooner. Losing all their attackers, means they need time to rebuild.

So you would have to be large enough to be the one attacked, but weakly defended to let them have some survivors.


No. They were wiping the floor with me. The first couple of times they attacked, they decimated my fleet, so the best I could hope for was to get what meager ships I had out of the path of attack, leaving the colony to be attacked to its own devices. Normally, I would see this as a bad move, but I had two choices: (1) allow my colony to get bashed; or (2) allow my colony to get bashed and lose a bunch of ships, too.

vmxa1 is offline vmxa1
Deity
Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:27
  Old Post 12-12-2004 01:59
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#17 Report this post to a moderator
Increase Your PM Length

Well I would like to see that. I tend to not play with them on any more as they are so boring and tempt me to end the game with a quick smashing of their HW.

They never have any surviving ships in my games, so somethinig is wrong. The first few times they come they go for someone else as I will not be the biggest.

Then they come for me the rest of the game. So if you are playing a level where you can be the top dog right away, then maybe they come before you are up to stopping them.

Once I have two BB's they no longer are a threat. You have at least 3 turns to see them coming, so you can get up a few defenses.

vmxa1 is offline vmxa1
Deity
Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:27
  Old Post 12-12-2004 02:06
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#18 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

I just looked at the log from that game posted and they only sent 4 ships on one turn to an undefended planet. I sent 4 ships to defend and dusted them, no loses.

Last edited by vmxa1 on 16-12-2004 at 00:59

Zoetrope is offline Zoetrope
Warlord
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Sep 1999
time: 05:27
  Old Post 13-12-2004 12:07 Visit Zoetrope's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#19 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Usually I have close encounters with the Antarans about three times in a game.

First time, they wipe the floor with any fleet and defences, then bomb the planet, causing either minor damage or total devastation depending on comparative force strengths.

Second time, I'm able to defend myself; I may capture one, two or three of their ships if my ground combat skills are up to it and the right ships are near enough.

You don't always get 3-4 turns warning: sometimes they materialise 1 turn from a poorly defended colony.

Third time we meet, it's at their base world. Two disappointments here: (1) no Antaran buildings or statistically measurable population to wreak vengeance on; (2) cannot seize their ships and run with them, which would be fun.

In one game, however, I was near the middle of the map, nad had good relations with my neighbors, but the Antarans attacked me once or twice in every 10 turns, repeatedly. They destroyed my best planets, one by one.

For some reason my ship tech wasn't up to fending them off, but I was close enough to Android tech to go for it. So I concentrated my research, got Android Workers, then went to war against my formerly placid neighbors, just so I could grab some worlds to survive the relentless Antaran onslaught.

The AWs were worth their weight in xentronium, because they worked hard enough to build up each captured colony fast enough to maintain the industry necessary to build ships (incl. colony ships), and so was able to maintain about 10 useful colonies despite continual losses to Antaran bombardment and withstand the attempts by my neighbors to retaliate against my desperate grabs for territory.

GameGeek is offline GameGeek
Chieftain

Nov 2004
time: 05:27
  Old Post 13-12-2004 20:32
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#20 Report this post to a moderator
Get a bigger avatar today!

quote:
Originally posted by vmxa1
I just looked at the log from that game you posted and they only sent 4 ships on one turn to an undefended planet. I sent 4 ships to defend and dusted them, no loses.


If you're referring to me, vmxa1, I didn't post a log.

vmxa1 is offline vmxa1
Deity
Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:27
  Old Post 13-12-2004 22:03
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#21 Report this post to a moderator
Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Sorry for the confusion, the log was from the game I played from the posted save.

Brutalisk is offline Brutalisk
Warlord

Apr 2003
time: 05:27
  Old Post 14-12-2004 00:28
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#22 Report this post to a moderator
Increase the size of your Attachments

quote:
"In all the years and thousands of moo2 games I've played, I have never seen an invading Space Dragon ask for money to spare a system. Cool, a feature I've never seen before."


I tried really hard to get over that statement but i can't. The only explanation is probably that your games wouldn't last for a lot of turns. Atleast not enough turns for the dragon to appear.

GameGeek is offline GameGeek
Chieftain

Nov 2004
time: 05:27
  Old Post 16-12-2004 00:44
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#23 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote:
Originally posted by vmxa1
Sorry for the confusion, the log was from the game I played from the posted save.


Are you referring to me? I've never posted a save, either. Had to be someone else's.

vmxa1 is offline vmxa1
Deity
Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:27
  Old Post 16-12-2004 00:58
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#24 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

One other method Brutlisk, having random events turned off.

Brutalisk is offline Brutalisk
Warlord

Apr 2003
time: 05:27
  Old Post 16-12-2004 11:33
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#25 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

LOL, it's just that from the sound of it, he does have random events on.

  < Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:27.
Apolyton Time is 00:27.
    top of page
Rate This Thread:
Forum Jump:
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 




Contact Us - Apolyton Civilization Site - Support Us!

Building a better Apolyton through better information. Click here and take our poll!
Non-US visitors, click here!

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.0.3
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Page generated in 0.0483 seconds (85.75% PHP - 14.25% MySQL) with 30 queries
Page Loading Time:

Support Apolyton: Amazon USA | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon FR |
Support Apolyton and get FREE PLUS, Buy from Chips&Bits: Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition | Call to Power 2 | Civilization: The Boardgame | GURPS/ Alpha Centauri | Alpha Centauri | Civilization IV | Civilization III: Complete |


Front Page | Civilization IV | Civilization III | Civilization II | Call to Power II | Alpha Centauri | Master of Orion III
Rise of Nations | Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations II | Misc
Alt.Civs | Civ I | C:CtP I | About | News | Directory | Apolyton Store | Forums | Chat | Columns | Interviews | Newsletter
Scenario League | CSC | Clash of Civs | Spanish Site | CtP Maps | Cradle of Civ | WesW's Ctp1/2 Site | Civ3 Haven

apolyton.net | apolyton.com | civilization2.net | civilization3.net | civilization4.net | civilizationiv.info | calltopower.net | galciv.net | galciv2.net | moo3.net