06-05-2003 21:41									#1
	why i love the bargain bin. Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Last 5 months i've bought:

Sid Meiers Civil War collection (SMG + SMA)
1602 AD
SMAC


Total expenditure - $30 US. For less than the cost of one new game I got 4 games (Im buying games practically at the pace of a "hardcore gamer"). And I knew going in they'd be great games, since theyve been played, reviewed, etc for years. Loads of gameplay on all of them. And all were "new" games - no pirating, no abandonware, not even any used games. So Im still encouraging the making of good games.

And I can defer the purchase of a new PC.

	06-05-2003 21:56									#2
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Aye, some of my best purchases were made from a bargain bin. Half-Life, Deus Ex, HOMM I, II, and III, Homeworld...

	06-05-2003 22:49									#3
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Long live the bargain bin. I bought Deus Ex, Gabriel Knight 3, Grim Fandango and Europa Universalis all from a bargain bin.

	06-05-2003 22:55									#4
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I got burned a time or two but who can complain about a five dollar game? Shoot the time it took to install paid it off. I just keep combing for the classics.

	06-05-2003 22:57									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Seldon I got burned a time or two but who can complain about a five dollar game? Shoot the time it took to install paid it off. I just keep combing for the classics.

curious - what game did you got burned on? I had two games that wouldnt load (one was AOK - MS copyprotect incompatible with my CD drive - grrrr!) but they were both from EB, so i returned them for credits.

	06-05-2003 23:01									#6
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Unfortunately, we don't have bargain bins here.

	06-05-2003 23:43									#7
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I totally agree with the lord of the mark.

Some of the games I've picked up:

Shogun - Total War. I've just started playing it, feels good! No manual, though...

Civ 2. Bundled with Command and Conquer Red Alert, which I never even installed (should I?). Civ 2 was the deal I wanted...

Grim Fandango. Excellent game!

Homeworld Cataclysm. Ditto.

The Lighthouse, Myst and Riven.

There are more...

Carolus

	07-05-2003 00:04									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex I totally agree with the lord of the mark. Some of the games I've picked up: Shogun - Total War. I've just started playing it, feels good! No manual, though... Civ 2. Bundled with Command and Conquer Red Alert, which I never even installed (should I?). Civ 2 was the deal I wanted... Grim Fandango. Excellent game! Homeworld Cataclysm. Ditto. The Lighthouse, Myst and Riven. There are more... Carolus

Myst is on my list also Baldurs Gate. (to get beyond strategy games)

Id like Shogun, but it would stretch my 48MB RAM dinosaur computer (and im not upgrading it to 64 given that i hope to get a new one in a few months)

	07-05-2003 02:12									#9
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quote: HOMM I, II, and III,

Millennium Heroes Patch, Loinburger?

Now that is a fun package!

I will say whiplash, a very fun racing game, even though I don't like many racing games.

	07-05-2003 02:35									#10
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Both Fallouts, Balders+Tales of the sword coast,Thief 1+2, Pharoah,Ceaser3........because the quality is so random with new releases these days most of my collection are bargin bin classics. Long may it continue. Anyone seen Imperialism2 in the bins?, i got the first one and would like this old classic.(no links to pirate rips thanx - i only have origonals).

	07-05-2003 02:42									#11
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My bargain bin pickups:

Freedom Force, Need for Speed 3: Hot Pursuit, Earth and Beyond, and C&C: Renegades all for $20.

Starcraft and Broodwar, with guides, $20.

Moo3: $19.99 (Ebay)

Jack Nicklaus 2000, Planescape: Torment, High Heat Baseball 2000, Might and Magic 8 (I think), for about $20.

SimGolf: $15.00 at Wal-Mart

Civ3: $70.

MAME:

All my Ultimas are at bargain bin prices, as are my Star Commands, X-com, etc. I rarely buy full-priced games anymore - it's just not worth it.

	07-05-2003 03:28									#12
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I've found civ2, lords of the realm2 per 10$ at a bargain bin

	07-05-2003 07:30									#13
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Both Fallouts, Balders+Tales of the sword coast,Thief 1+2, Pharoah,Ceaser3........because the quality is so random with new releases these days most of my collection are bargin bin classics. Long may it continue. Anyone seen Imperialism2 in the bins?, i got the first one and would like this old classic.(no links to pirate rips thanx - i only have origonals).

Imp2 is definitely no longer to be found - Ive looked - have to get it online, I think.

	07-05-2003 08:08									#14
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I just got Bg1 from the bargain bin. I also got Planescape: Torment from the bargain bins.

Other good games I saw in the bargain bin (but I got for full price). Fallout 1 and 2.

	07-05-2003 08:10									#15
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

I saw the cid meier's civil war collection. I was contemplating buying it. Should I?

Those are RTS games aren't they? How hard are they? I'm not good at RTS like command and conquer. I can never keep up with the computer. Are the games beatable and fun?

	07-05-2003 08:33									#16
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i rarely buy new games anymore. the bargain bin is really the way to go for almost every game. even new games which i am all hyped up on i can now convince myself to not rush out and buy them. reasons the bargain bin rules

a) games will already be patched(since it's usually a few months before they are bargain binned at least)
b) you will know from the games forum, and community if it is really a good game. games with strong communities months after their release are usually worth buying.
c) your pc might be faster by the time you buy the game thus ensuring a better experience
d) cheaper!

	07-05-2003 09:37									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I'm waiting for Dungeon Seige to make it to the bargain bins. The game isn't quite good enough to buy at full price.

	07-05-2003 17:08									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Some more.

MOO2. How could I forget this one?

Pharaoh, Caesar 2 and 3.

Carolus

	07-05-2003 17:16									#19
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Lost count of all the games I have bought from the bargain bin, but here goes:

- Red Faction
- Emperor: Battle for Dune
- Black and White
- Dungeon Keeper 2
- Hitman: Codename 47
- Homeworld
- Caesar III
- Shogun Total War
- Medieval Total War
- Civ: CTP
- SMAC
- Every Ultima (except IX unfortunately)
- Red Alert II
- Jedi Knight II

And the list goes on. There just aren't that many games these days worth buying new and at full price.

	07-05-2003 17:44									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Civ, Thief 1 and 2 for me. I don't have the desire to wait years until the game is cheap - they usually disappear completely before they even start reducing in price here.

	07-05-2003 18:21									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I saw the cid meier's civil war collection. I was contemplating buying it. Should I? Those are RTS games aren't they? How hard are they? I'm not good at RTS like command and conquer. I can never keep up with the computer. Are the games beatable and fun?

Definitely not like your run of the mill RTS (no building, complex formation and morale effects, historically accurate, and you can pause and give orders IIRC) and can vary the speed.

Definitely hard though - theres this one scenario i keep getting beat on only the second difficulty level - the AI seems really smart tactically - maybe i just to need to play more and get the hang of it better.

Fun - I think so. Helps if you're a civil war buff. The RT element adds a coolness element that most historically accurate TB wargames dont quite have. If youre not into history, or prefer civish games with tech research and city building, may not be the games for you.

BTW, if you really are interested its a lot of gameplay. The Civil war collection included SMG (Gettysburg) SMA (Antietam) and South Mountain (the battle the day before Antietam) For each battle there are a couple of dozen scenarios, for each tactical level combat. For Antietam theres also a scenario of the whole battle (for gettysburg they just linked the scenarios into a campaign) there are also other scenarios available on the net - Fredricksburg, I think.

	07-05-2003 18:25									#22
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oh and if you like the SMG concept, but prefer European history, theres a small company thats licensed the engine and uses it for Napoleonic era - Austerlitz i think.

	07-05-2003 21:53									#23
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Imp2 is definitely no longer to be found - Ive looked - have to get it online, I think.

Well, here it is easily found in the budget ranges in various stores. But what's available cheap seems to vary a lot - at least, it's different between here and England... don't know about the US.

I picked up a copy for 149:- SEK (About £11) a few weeks ago...

Other games I've bought on budget... almost everything I have. Thief, Thief 2, Baldur's gate 1 +2 + expansions, Icewind Dale + Expansion, Planescape Torment, Emperor, Zeus, Poseidon, Pharaoh, Caesar, Wizardry 8, Age of Wonders 2, Empire Earth, Deus Ex, NOLF 2, Fallout, Fallout 2, Anno 1602, .... lots of others.

In fact, during the past year, I've bought well over 30 games, but only three of them at full price (Civ 3, EU2, GalCiv) - all the rest at budget or cheap offers.

/unic

	08-05-2003 01:18									#24
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I haven't been bin diving for a while, but I remember getting Command & Conquer that way. I'm glad I didn't pay much for it, controling units in that game was like herding cats!

C-Rex - I would leave that one on the shelf or throw it on a Midsommar bonfire. (hej! )

	08-05-2003 04:14									#25
	Re: why i love the bargain bin. Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Last 5 months i've bought: Sid Meiers Civil War collection (SMG + SMA) 1602 AD SMAC Total expenditure - $30 US.

If you paid more than $5 for SMAC, u got jipped. CompUSA near me is selling box full of SMAC cds for 99cents.
Hey if anyone wants a copy and theres enough request, I'll mail it to ya for just cost of shipping + dollar.

Anyways... I almost Never buy bargain bin games. If I really like the game, Its a priority. I must pre-order, buy the first day its out or order the japanese console version. For example, most fighting games I buy with approximately twice the cost of US versions, but I get them about 3-6 months early.

But If I have only interest in it, I'll most likely borrow it from a friend or download it and if I cant I wont play it. Besides most games that are not on my priority list usually ends up being waste of money if I buy them... even for cent. I'd probably beat it in few days and forget it (or not even finish it).

I pay way too much for too few games, but I make that up by mostly playing borrowed/downloaded ones

	08-05-2003 15:31									#26
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Into the Midsommar fire it will go...

Does anyone know where I can buy Deus Ex (in a Swedish boutique or on the Net)? I've heard a lot about this game and I'd like to have it.

Carolus

	08-05-2003 16:18									#27
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Well seeing as most people here like the bargain bin I'll be awkward and offer an opposing view.

I don't like it............you have to play games that are at least a year old, and may well be more. Also if your interest is MP for instance, it is possible that you have missed the game at its prime.

Obviously buying a lot of full price games is not viable for most............but selecting the ones you really want and buying them the day they come out is my preferred choice.

	08-05-2003 16:49									#28
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Off-topic...

Carolus,

Midsommar brasa/eld/bål -> Midsummer bonfire

On-topic...

Quite much agree on that point with you, Spikey. I don't buy games often as fresh, I either wait a few months, or get them as bargains or auctions/second hand (see my second hand thread).

	08-05-2003 16:59									#29
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I just got No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M's way for $20 today (er... yesterday)! Woo... maybe one of the best $20 I've ever spent. Great game!

	08-05-2003 17:03									#30
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Well, I'm enjoying the hell out of Freedom Force myself. Great game!

I also have a thing about spending $50 for a game that I very well might not play more than 5-10 hours. Because of my Civ3 experience, that's why I did the Ebay thing for Moo3 - why pay $50+ for little more than another variant on the same game engine?