07-05-2003 08:44									#1
	What should NOT be in the next XP? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

If Firaxis were to bring out another expansion pack they would try to put things in that we, the customers, wanted. Well, things that they think we want.

I certainly would not want to pay A$50 for an XP with more civs, more units, more eyecandy and precious little else. I would not want Firaxis to waste their time and energy on things I don't want so that they could instead devote their energies to including things that will lead to me wasting lots of my time.

People are always asking for more units, more civs, more wonders, more buildings etc but is this worth the money given that you can either find out how to do this yourself with the editor or download them? I think not. I want new cpabilities, not more of the same. I do not want another building that adds 50% to trade revenue (ie a second marketplace which I could create in the editor myself).

What are your thoughts?

	07-05-2003 10:57									#2
	Re: What should NOT be in the next XP? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by peterfharris What are your thoughts?

There won't be another XP - they've done milked it to death. Sid has decided to create a new claim to fame so that he won't be known as the "civ guy". Unfortunately, this effort is bound to fail. Sid has his claim to fame and anything else he does is bound to come up lacking in a pathetic attempt to do the next big thing.

Anyone remember SimGolf? Didn't think so.

Just my thoughts ...

	07-05-2003 14:22									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I don't want hedgehogs going after gold coins.

	07-05-2003 17:00									#4
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I don't want a new element of design that'll make the game more cluttered, more micromanagerial. (don't get me wrong, I want more buildings or techs, as they don't create clutter/micromanagement)

I don't want Firaxis to focus on eye-candy rather than the editor.

I don't want the XP to be flawed or bug-ridden when it ships, because I don't want Civ's reputation to be definitely destroyed.

	08-05-2003 03:25									#5
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I don't want the XP to be flawed or bug-ridden when it ships, because I don't want Civ's reputation to be definitely destroyed.

This is the most important thing!

	08-05-2003 04:10									#6
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Mostly said before, but

I don't want it to be more than $30

I don't want the focus to be civs that could be modded in, I want it to focus on the editor and editor AI strategies

I want it to have little amounts of bugs (Just make sure the editor works, it should be bug-free with everything else)

	08-05-2003 04:28									#7
	What should NOT be in the next XP Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Infogrames

	08-05-2003 05:06									#8
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They won't be

It'll be Atari

	08-05-2003 05:15									#9
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For the good name name of Atari, i will not call them like that

	08-05-2003 06:09									#10
	Tired of ads?

None of the annoying blue. I was stunned when I first loaded up XP and there was all this grotesque blue. Plus this happy little "Welcome" and the annoying start-up sound...

...oh wait, you mean Firaxis

I dunno.

	08-05-2003 06:11									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Manya For the good name name of Atari, i will not call them like that

Hear! Hear! First they try to destroy the Civ name, then the MOO name. Now they aim for Atari!



ACK!

	08-05-2003 09:10									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I'd like a new era. Anything we want is acceptable, right?

Of course, that would never happen... I miss CTP space and undewater cities...

	08-05-2003 09:14									#13
	Got spare money?

Come on guys. Let's face it. There will not be another expansion. And in all honesty, if there was, I wouldn't buy it. There are some really good strategies games coming out right now

Besides, they will soon be announcing plans for a Civ 4 at the upcoming E3. The news has just barely leaked. I hope you're all excited!

	08-05-2003 10:28									#14
	Re: What should NOT be in the next XP? Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by peterfharris What should NOT be in the next XP?

Bugs.

	08-05-2003 10:32									#15
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quote: Originally posted by King_Xerces Besides, they will soon be announcing plans for a Civ 4 at the upcoming E3. The news has just barely leaked. I hope you're all excited!

What? Where did you hear that? They will announce something at E3, but I doubt very-very much that it'll be civ4. It doesn't make sense. SMAC2, maybe; or some dino game, or maybe another one from the civil war collection. But civ4? Nahh...

	09-05-2003 03:46									#16
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

SimGolf 2!!!

	09-05-2003 08:28									#17
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I want patches that are released worldwide simultaneously.

CIV3 Play the World, becomes "Civ3 Play everyone else in the US" or "CIV3 International Edition where you cannot play anyone in the US, you can't even play Multiplayer other than PBEM and Hotseat", not very catchy titles and not very happy gamers.

Opps, this was what we do not want......I do not want patches to be regionally focused because of some poxy copy protection.

Still enjoying the PBEM's though, thanks to Betahounds (I think it was him) workarounds to allow US to keep playing 1.14.

Cheers

Andy

	09-05-2003 08:43									#18
	Tired of ads?

Better would be a perfect, nice game that would not need any patching at all...

	09-05-2003 09:59									#19
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quote: Originally posted by andy_hammer Opps, this was what we do not want......I do not want patches to be regionally focused because of some poxy copy protection.

yes Atari needs to wake up.

	09-05-2003 10:16									#20
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by pedrojedi Better would be a perfect, nice game that would not need any patching at all...

There will always be bugs that even they won't catch; lots of games have to release a new patch after they release the game. Like the Sims...that Hot Date patch did some major patching changes.

	09-05-2003 10:24									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Naiveplayer There will always be bugs that even they won't catch; lots of games have to release a new patch after they release the game. Like the Sims...that Hot Date patch did some major patching changes.

I;m not sure I would admit knowldege of that game on this site

	09-05-2003 11:25									#22
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Manya: hahahhaha....

We want Civilization4 not any ****ing expansion pack... WE WANT CIV4!!! heheheheh ...

I wish there will be Civ4 one day...

good night everyone

	11-05-2003 04:23									#23
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No kidding. That's what I had heard. And from a refutable source, too. I can't remember which....

It seems premature, but they are going to start Civ4. And I expect it to be much better than this bittersweet version.

--King Xerces
(BTW, would anybody know why I can't post under that name, anymore. I'm logged in under that av. But Cannot post??)

	11-05-2003 04:36									#24
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quote: Originally posted by BandicootMan bittersweet

That's the word I've been looking for all the time.

	11-05-2003 05:14									#25
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quote: Originally posted by cronos_qc Manya: hahahhaha.... We want Civilization4 not any ****ing expansion pack... WE WANT CIV4!!! heheheheh ... I wish there will be Civ4 one day... good night everyone

I want a ****ing expansion

	11-05-2003 05:35									#26
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I want a good expansion

	11-05-2003 06:08									#27
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I want unit-trading

	11-05-2003 06:42									#28
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how about when youve got units stacked, they're listed basically randomly. i especially hate this for carrier groups. they bombers and what not are listed everywhere and must it say "in carrier"? how about it says carrier, and then under it, with indentations what planes are in that particular carrier?

or when lets say ive got a few workers stacked. i want them all to build a mine, so i'll, out of habit, quickly click on the "mine" button 3 times in a row, only to have it go to a different worker not in the stack, and he'll start building a fortress, wasting a good perfectly good turn.

	12-05-2003 21:58									#29
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I don't want an opening sequence that I can't click through until it changes video modes. A minor quibble, but one we have to face every time.

	12-05-2003 22:44									#30
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A "soundtrack" with such an extremely limited number of background songs.