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Bosh is offline Bosh
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Wesleyan University 'tis a silly place. Put an end to popups!

Sometimes even a good leftist like me looses patience with people and I reminded of all the very good reasons why PCU was filmed at Wes. Thought this would provide some entertainment for people here...

http://www.wesleyan.edu/argus/
RA selection process for 200 Church criticized

by Mark Radosevich

Production Manager


A community meeting in Woodhead Lounge on Sunday afternoon that was convened to discuss the future of 200 Church St., formerly Chi Psi, focused instead on criticism of the selection of the house’s residential advisors (RAs). Dean of the College Freddye Hill called the meeting along with a student group that has been pressing the administration for several changes relating to the experience of students of color at the University, including the creation of an Office of Multicultural Affairs.

Most of the thirty students in attendance supported the suggestion that the selection process for the house’s RAs be reopened. Hill replied that it was both too late to reopen the process and unfair to the RAs who are already under contract. There are two RAs currently assigned to 200 Church St. and a third will be hired, Hill said.

There was little question that the central issue was the race of the RAs.

“As a white person, I do not want white RAs there,” said Micah West ’05, adding “I will protest that to the very end.”

West was not alone. “I do not want white people there,” said Danielle Dixon ’05. Dixon added that she personally could be comfortable with having a white RA in a house designated as a safe space for students of color, but believed that other students of color would feel differently.

“I’m a little concerned over the claim over who should be there,” Hill said.

Some argued that white RAs could not understand the situations faced by first year students of color, to which Hill said, “I haven’t heard anyone that I’ve talked to claim expertise.”

The participants of the meeting also could not agree on the purpose of the house. Hill suggested that the housing could be “a place where students would confront issues” related to multiculturalism, adding that she feared that students in housing designated as a safe-space, which many of the students argued for, might feel “expected to support whatever position unfolds” on such issues.

Hill was unable to answer questions about the meeting before this issue went to press.

“I’m glad I came here to hear all this,” said Patrick Welsh ’05, one of the RAs assigned to 200 Church St. If a first year student of color wants “to live in a place where it’s all students of their color, I think they have that right,” he said. “I am not welcome.”

According to an email announcement of the meeting from Hill, “the purpose of the meeting is to discuss plans for developing programming in first-year residential areas next year and proposals to transform 200 Church Street into first-year-student housing in which first-year students, living together, will engage in discussions and programming around the multiplicities of identity, oppression, and privilege from the perspectives of students of color and other underrepresented students.” The proposals include the possibility of a new center to address concerns specific to students of color that may be housed within 200 Church St.

Several students criticized the handling of their concerns by administration, including the Office of Residential Life (ResLife).

“It is so unbelievably bogus that Jeff [Ederer, Director of Residential Life] is not here,” said Liz King ’03 after the meeting.

Ederer could not be reached for comment.

Although most of the students at the meeting have been coordinating their efforts for most of the discussions with the administration, the opinions were not expressed unanimously.

“I feel that every freshman should have one year of forced diversity,” said Justin Rogers ’05. “They can self-segregate for three years.”

“It’s not self-segregation,” replied Hetert-Qebu Walters ’05. “You said you were lucky to live in a diverse dorm…This isn’t a place where you shop for diverse cultures. Are we taking into account the feelings of the students of color on this campus? That’s priority number one.”

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Are we taking into account the feelings of the students of color on this campus? That’s priority number one.”




Now that's just silly.

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Bunch of hippie freaks!

I am glad my University was so cold and informal, with an admin. that could not give a crap what students thought or wanted (like a previous president of the U that called undergraduates "tuition-paying units")

Oh, and PCU was a funny movie, not a good movie, but funny.

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I liked that movie too...

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It's almost like what they want are dorms that are somehow separate but at the same time equal

And Boshko: kudos to any man who can poke a little fun at his own ideology on occasion.

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Oh good lord...that people can say these things with straight faces and not realize the utter stupidity of them is astounding.

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If a first year student of color wants “to live in a place where it’s all students of their color, I think they have that right,” he said. “I am not welcome.”


Heart-breaking.

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this school should be nuked

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You all seemed relatively normal people to me...

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this school should be nuked


Think of all the poor little animals that would die!? Monsters!

I say, ship the whole house to a commune in the DR Congo. I am sure all of them would just love a chance to visit black people (ohh, looky, black people...) in their "natural habitat".....

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wait youre right gepap. we should round up all the people that live in this house, and their supporters, set the house on fire and then shoot anyone that tries to escape.

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That just makes you a vandal!

Their murder..I mean, punishment, must be sublimely ironic. It is the only type of ending befitting their idiocy. So I will stick to my, send them to the middle of the worst war in the world plan.

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Think of all the poor little animals that would die!? Monsters!

I say, ship the whole house to a commune in the DR Congo. I am sure all of them would just love a chance to visit black people (ohh, looky, black people...) in their "natural habitat".....


The DRC is not their natural habitat, it's the making of the CIA and their local assistant Mobutu who right wingers in the US kept in power for three decades.

And it's exactly attitudes like yours that make African-Americans want to live in separate housing.

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if black people want seperate housing because of attitudes like that then i feel sorry for the weak emotional state of black people in america.

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@ Carver

Incidentaly, how is it that the University can get away with segregated dorms? I shudder to think what would happen if the University of Mississippi, for example, tries something like that.

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How would it sound if they said NO Black people allowed?

Racism is wrong no matter who it targets.

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The DRC is not their natural habitat, it's the making of the CIA and their local assistant Mobutu who right wingers in the US kept in power for three decades.

And it's exactly attitudes like yours that make African-Americans want to live in separate housing.


Let's see how you'd feel about all-white housing, no non-whites allowed.

EDIT - X-posted with Oerdin.

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Incidentaly, how is it that the University can get away with segregated dorms? I shudder to think what would happen if the University of Mississippi, for example, tries something like that.


its because when liberals are racist they can get away with it. stupid double standard.

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I guess satire of their views only works with smileys....

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And Boshko: kudos to any man who can poke a little fun at his own ideology on occasion.

I love Wes, but it can get pretty surreal at times.
Jello got it right:

So you been to school for a year or two
And you know you've seen it all
In daddy's car thinkin' you'll go far
Back east your type don't crawl
Play ethnicky jazz to parade your snazz
On your five grand stereo
Braggin that you know how the niggers feel cold
And the slums got so much soul

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Jeez... this is why movies like PCU are released and people laugh at the far left. People like this just gives the ideology a bad name.

This is what happens well you live in hippie-lefty-ville, Boshko .

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Yet somehow it's still less distressing that the people on the far right, who inspire not laughter, but fear...

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Jeez... this is why movies like PCU are released and people laugh at the far left. People like this just gives the ideology a bad name.

This is what happens well you live in hippie-lefty-ville, Boshko .


you forgot who were the bad guys in that movie Imran...

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Oh Boris, you just wish they had all gay droms back in your day

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Oh Boris, you just wish they had all gay droms back in your day


Not at all...we like having straight bois around

And we need our fag hags, too.

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This is what happens well you live in hippie-lefty-ville, Boshko

It is

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Incidentaly, how is it that the University can get away with segregated dorms?

OK, the deal is we have "program houses" where sophomores and up can live (which include Asian/Asian-American House, Chinese House, Sign House, Out House, Womanist House, Women of Color House, Open House, Chi Psi, Malcolm X House, etc. etc.). The current residents get to choose who lives there the following year. This means that the bulk of these houses tend to be of a certain demographic but its never 100%, for example I live in the Bayit (Jewish program house) and I'm not Jewish.

Now the exception was that of all the houses only Malcolm X House was allowed to have frosh live there. This year the university changed that so that the same rule that applied to all the other program houses and a lot of people were annoyed that black students could no longer avoid living with whites for their entire 4 years and demanded that the university change something.

This is the first I've heard of the administration's solution, namely making what used to be Chi Psi (they didn't own their house and got kicked out of it for doing thigns like dumping 500 pound bags of sang all over the floors for a beach party and whatnot...) an "intercultural" dorm for frosh. And now it appears that many students think that intercultural means white-free

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We have one across the street.

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I would scream if I had to live in hippyville!

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I would scream if I had to live in hippyville!

oh and we have people hanging out on the hill regularly (our equivalent of a quad since we don't have a quad ) with a giant bong made out of a 5-gallon water cooler bottle

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even though im about to go to an art school, i would also hate to live in a hippyville. most my friends go to UC Berkeley or UC santa cruz and they say that there are too many damn dirty hippies on campus.

i can smell them from here.

 
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