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Bosh is offline Bosh
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Taehan Mingook
Jan 1970
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That's gotta sting...

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....storyID=2708805

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (Reuters) - A mountaineer facing death after being pinned by an 800-pound boulder in the Utah desert said on Thursday he had to break his arm bone before he could cut the limb off with a dull knife.

Aron Ralston, 27, said in the beginning of his five-day ordeal he threw his body against the rock to free himself and then tried to chip away at it before realizing his only chance to live was to cut off his arm.

'At no point was I ever able to get the boulder to budge even microscopically,' Ralston told reporters at St. Mary's Hospital in Grand Junction, Colorado, where he is recuperating.

Ralston was rescued last week Thursday after cutting off his right arm, then rappelling down a canyon and hiking about six miles before he came across two Dutch hikers. He was airlifted to hospital.

After three days of being stuck and after having eaten the last few crumbs in a candy bar wrapping, he decided to amputate his right arm.

But he made little progress. He started sawing back and forth with his pocketknife to no avail. The knife was so dull that he could not even cut the hair on his arm.

Two days later he realized he had to do something while he was still coherent. 'It was the last opportunity I would have and still have the physical strength to get out,' he said.

HAD TO BREAK THE BONES

'It occurred to me I could break my bones,' he said as his mother, who was near tears, sat by his side.

First the radius snapped just above his wrist. He kept twisting his arm and a few minutes later the ulna broke. The whole process, including setting out bandages and first aid supplies, took about an hour.

He said all he could do was endure the pain. 'I felt pain and I coped with it.'

He said his courage came from being 'pragmatic.'

Ralston, a former engineer at Intel Corp. who lives in Aspen, Colorado, had set off for a one-day trip on Saturday, April 26, hiking and rock climbing in Utah's Canyonlands National Park.

While admitting that he should not have been alone and that he should at least have left his itinerary with someone, Ralston said what befell him could not have been avoided.

'Once that boulder came to rest there was no way I would be released in time to save my hand and arm,' he told reporters.

He said his surgeon told him the arm suffered significant soft tissue damage and loss of circulation.

He said different emotions flooded his body at different times during his five day ordeal. At first it was all adrenaline flowing, but then he realized he had to calm down.

He said he looks forward to getting out of the hospital and getting back to the outdoors.

'I'm looking forward to a giant margarita,' he said.

When Ralston walked into a room for the news conference he held up a camera to take pictures of the assembled press. 'These are for me,' he said, smiling.

In the desert his moods ranged from focusing on solving his dilemma to depression and remorse.

He barely slept during the ordeal and had run out of water after three days.

Because of the way he was pinned by the boulder he stood for most of the time until he fashioned a seat from the ropes he had with him.

He said he kept thinking about his family and friends. 'There was a presence in that canyon. I felt the presence of my family and my friends,' he said.

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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May 1999
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Bereta_Eder is offline Bereta_Eder
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Oct 2000
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all of which could be avoided if he had a mobile phone and if telecommunications were at state control in the US just like any other civilized part of the world

rah is offline rah
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Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
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And how would a mobile phone had helped? He was no where near a tower. And I don't want state controlled telecommunications here. The competition has driven the price down, and the coverage is quite excelent. And there is actually an incentive to upgrade equipment, unlike government controlled systems.

Az is offline Az
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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
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paiktis is just trolling. Unless the government controls the cellular biz in greece.

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Yeah, I know, but when you see such wacked statements, it's hard to resist.

Lefty Scaevola is offline Lefty Scaevola
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Oct 2000
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  Old Post 09-05-2003 18:15
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I want that guy to be in cahrge of one of my commado units when I take over the world.

TheStinger is offline TheStinger
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Apr 2002
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All the civilized parts of the worls have sold off their telecoms businesses. The uncivilzed parts have crap ones and no one would buy them

Traianvs is offline Traianvs
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Belgium, land of plenty (corruption)
Jan 2000
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  Old Post 09-05-2003 18:36
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He says he couldn't even cut his hair with the knife, then how could he have amputated his arm, broken bones or not?

Besides how did he know the right spot for amputating his arm.. you can't just randomly cut it off, unless you want to bleed to death.. ok that medkit, but I don't reckon it had too much equipment in it as he was only on foot...

Buck Birdseed is offline Buck Birdseed
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In most normal countries telecoms coverage is regulated to a minimum so that few if any areas of the country are without coverage...

Az is offline Az
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Apr 2000
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true that. But not "controlled". but yes, there should be reception, usually.

Winston is offline Winston
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Mar 1999
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Man cuts off own arm.

Apolyton OT more intrigued by ownership of telecom op's.



Actually, I read yesterday about a man in Turkey (?), who cut off his own head in a meat slicer at a butchers'. Just before closing time, he walked in, got behind the counter and lowered his neck to the running bone saw and caused one heck of a mess.

NOW! I don't want to hear about if he'd been on his cell phone at the time that he would have been fine, especially if it was an older model. I won't have it!

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In most normal countries telecoms coverage is regulated to a minimum so that few if any areas of the country are without coverage...


Well the US is not a normal country. When you have a larger percentage of wilderness areas than Africa, Universal area coverage is just kind of silly.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Aug 2001
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Still astonishing.

The silly thing was going rock climbing alone in such a remote location. The buddy system is really important for these things.

But he seemed to be in really good spirits, despite losing an arm. Better than death, that's for sure. And hey, he's pretty cute...

Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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Got spare money?

now that guy has some BALLS!

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Aug 2001
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  Old Post 09-05-2003 21:49
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He should be thankful those didn't get caught under the boulder.

Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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I'd rather die there then cut off my best friends.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Aug 2001
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How could you cut them off after death?

Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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The guy survived Boris...

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Oct 1999
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I want that guy to be in cahrge of one of my commado units when I take over the world.


Hell, he must be one of your direct descendants.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Oct 1999
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quote:
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In most normal countries telecoms coverage is regulated to a minimum so that few if any areas of the country are without coverage...


Yeah, most normal countries like small, densely populated ones in Europe?

There's lots of desert, mountains, jungle, tundra and other nice stretches of empty space in this hemisphere.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Aug 2001
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Sava:

quote:
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I'd rather die there then cut off my best friends.


Sincerely,

Das Grammatiknazi

Sava is offline Sava
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u can suck my grammar boris

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Aug 2001
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Would this be before or after you've cut your balls off?

Winston is offline Winston
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Mar 1999
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What about the Turk that cut his own head off!!

That guy in Utah still has one good arm, but there's no way the Turk will ever hike in the wilderness again. Or even do some late afternoon steak shopping for that matter.

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