10-05-2003 06:55									#1
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Hypothetical: You have 2 horrific choices........

You have two buttons infront of you-you MUST pick one.

If you press one button, one person will go through every type of possible suffering, for eternity(past the destruction of the universe, the heat death of the universe, the half-life on protons, intra-galactic blackhole etc.....whatever ends matter)-eternity i.e. forever. The twist is that this is some person who you hold dear-but you dont know who.

If you press the other button, half the population of the earth instantly and painlessly cease to exist.

If you press neither button, you yourself get the horrible conseqeunces of the first button done to yourself........

What do you do?


Edit: You cant procrastinate, after 24 hours if you dont decide you get the results of button 1 on yourself.

	10-05-2003 06:57									#2
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I'd press button two twice.

	10-05-2003 06:58									#3
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button 2 or if I'm in a good mood neither.


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	10-05-2003 06:58									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld I'd press button two twice.

That would result in 1/4th the population of the world being left(1*.5*.5)

	10-05-2003 07:00									#5
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I will push button 1, after making sure it will happen to the thread starter.

	10-05-2003 07:11									#6
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How evil

	10-05-2003 07:14									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I will push button 1, after making sure it will happen to the thread starter.

	10-05-2003 07:15									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov How evil

Pick!

	10-05-2003 07:17									#9
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2. I never liked people much.

	10-05-2003 07:28									#10
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uh, i may be evil, but button two doesn't sound that horrific, they will all die eventually, and probably not painlessly

	10-05-2003 07:34									#11
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I would gladly choose button 2. The Earth is way over-populated.

	10-05-2003 07:38									#12
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Button two. We have a hard time feeding everyone anyway.

	10-05-2003 07:41									#13
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button 1... one life's suffering is nothing compared to the evaporation of 3 billion and the great mourning of the surviving 3 billion for the loss of half their loved ones


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	10-05-2003 07:44									#14
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actually you know what... i would do button 1 on myself... what do i matter anyway?

	10-05-2003 08:31									#15
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Button 1: Infinite suffering
Button 2: 0 suffering
Button 3: Infinite suffering

I wonder what I should choose...

	10-05-2003 08:32									#16
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This thread is wierd.

	10-05-2003 08:37									#17
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0 suffering for who?

Half the children of the world will be asking, "Mommy where did my daddy and sister go?"

that's ****ing suffering... you people are all idiots to not realize the full implications of having half the population vanish... thats people's parents, siblings, and friends vanishing...

	10-05-2003 08:41									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer 0 suffering for who? Half the children of the world will be asking, "Mommy where did my daddy and sister go?" that's ****ing suffering... you people are all idiots to not realize the full implications of having half the population vanish... thats people's parents, siblings, and friends vanishing...

yes, but their suffering will eventually end. That one person's suffering will never end.

	10-05-2003 08:44									#19
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well let's see...

3 billion survivors mourning for let's say 2 years... thats 6 billion years worth of suffering...

true, not eternity... unless you assume eternity ends when the universe ends which might happen within 6 billion years

	10-05-2003 08:45									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld I'd press button two twice.

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C'mon you know you will push either the first or second button. My consience would be wreck for the rest of my life, but I would push it
Do we get to choose who get's on the receiving end of button one? If it is chosen randomly, then it could still be you...better press the second one to be sure

	10-05-2003 08:46									#21
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and the immense loss of manpower and brainpower would have wide-spread repercussions...

frankly, i cant see how anyone would ever pick button two... one life verses billions...

	10-05-2003 08:49									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer well let's see... 3 billion survivors mourning for let's say 2 years... thats 6 billion years worth of suffering... true, not eternity... unless you assume eternity ends when the universe ends which might happen within 6 billion years

Well the thread started said the consequences of button 1 would go on past the end of universe, he said the suffering would go on forever(eternity by definition does not end). So you are still comparing infinite suffering to finite suffering.

	10-05-2003 08:55									#23
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I would break open the machine and jam its gears with Vesayen's head. Crisis averted. Now it is snack time. My will be done.

	10-05-2003 08:56									#24
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If it runs on WinME we might all get away with it

	10-05-2003 09:09									#25
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Eternal suffering is much worse than simple death.

2.

	10-05-2003 09:09									#26
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I'd just levitate and show that I have powers thus getting out of the hook.

	10-05-2003 09:11									#27
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WHAT THE HELL?

Am I the only one here who would rather have one person suffer than billions... and frankly, just taking away one's life is suffering... imagine all the **** you plan to do in your life and have it just vanish... true you wouldnt know anything cause you'd be dead but still... such loss...

of course if there's an afterlife...

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Or I'd ask for official promise that if I push button number 1 that it will happen, making someone give signature, then I'd want to sign it too, asking for another working pen and then quickly putting them into my nose and slamming my head to the table and die right there before pushing any buttons.

	10-05-2003 09:13									#29
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If the eternal suffering involved includes being subjected to inane hypothetical moral choices with no real favorable answer, then I say, away go the 3 billion!

	10-05-2003 09:29									#30
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I don't understand why my "would you rather have a railroad spike shoved through your left eye or your right" poll was closed, seeing as how Vesayen seems to start a new (equivalent) poll every day. Double standard!