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Not on this side of the pond, matey = at least for non-parents. You are confusing coporal punishment (beating) with discipline (maintaining order). One is a method to achieve the other, but it's not the only or the best method. Next!
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
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I wouldnt spank my kids. i was never spanked and even though ive gone through a lot with my parents i dont believe physical punishment would have helped in anything.
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Dr Strangelove
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I was whipped for having the wrong look on my face or for making too much noise about having a teen-ager eight years my senior sitting on my chest or head.
For real punishment my Dad conceived of a real doozy: he made us tear up a section of the driveway and haul off the asphalt and gravel using nothing more than picks, shovels and wheelbarrows.
I find the threat of corporal punishment to be more effective than actually doing it.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:28
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I was hit a few times as a child, the worst being by my grandmother, who used a small, whiplike tree branch. It hurt, but I don;t think I was better of or more obidient for it. I do agree though that slight physical punishment has its uses and banning spanking is too much, as long as you don't do it out of immidiate anger since you might get carried away.
I think that if you have built a close relationship with your kid, and they respect you and seek your approval and consent, then hsaming, or strongly showing your displeasure would be enough for most kids. If you havent built sucha relationship, well, then it is much harder.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:28
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Originally posted by Azazel
a branch? 
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Yes, a thin flexible one, and it hurts like hell, cause the branch itself acts like a whip. The sort of methods used in the old times, and which my grandmother kept.
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You know, I've seen aquaintances of my parents spank their children on different occasions. I felt the following:
-The kids are angred by this, but not shamed, or regretful of what they did.
-I am getting a weird vibe that the folks are getting a power trip.
I can't say this is true for everyone, of course, just my feelings. But I think they used force too soon, and generally use it too often. |
Well, spanking works on a basic pavlovian way, but I think spanking only works in cases in which you have a defined and clear act yo don;t want your kid to repeat, like running out intot he street, or attacking a sibling, or the like. Spanking a kid for bad notes would only lead to what you say, sincethere are possibly many reasons for bad notes, and in such a case, i don;t think corporal punishment achieves anything.
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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
time: 07:28
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Yes, a thin flexible one, and it hurts like hell, cause the branch itself acts like a whip. The sort of methods used in the old times, and which my grandmother kept. |
just as I thought. 
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Well, spanking works on a basic pavlovian way, but I think spanking only works in cases in which you have a defined and clear act yo don;t want your kid to repeat, like running out intot he street, or attacking a sibling, or the like. Spanking a kid for bad notes would only lead to what you say, sincethere are possibly many reasons for bad notes, and in such a case, i don;t think corporal punishment achieves anything. |
Well, in one of the cases I saw, for example, ( very vivid, since it was a couple of weeks ago ), the grandmother spanked the kid after he ran over a garden of some seeds one of the neighbours planted. She told him not to do so, but definetly, not the same day, or in an 'important' air, and I am rather certain that the kid didn't benefit from it, at all. sigh.
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:28
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I was spanked a few times in my childhood, and once very violently, with a leather belt. My mother was extremely upset, which is understandable, as I had left the house at night when I was 6 or 8, and hid for a few hours in the nearby woods, which were rumored to be populated by boars. This was by the way the last spanking I ever had.
I wholeheartedly agree with GePap : punishment cannot be enough. You have to develop a trust relation with your child in order for him to understand why he was punished. Lectures aren't good because you're only saying things the kid doesn't care about. On the contrary, you have to have him understand and acknowledge why he was wrong. The physical punishment is not necessary at all times, but can help make sure your kid won't be tempted again in the future.
However, Azazel is right : you shouldn't do physical punishment for any unimportant thing your kid does. A kid is undisciplined, and will do tricks. It is stupid to punish him for every one, and it can mess with his development
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