11-05-2003 12:47									#1
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Thanks to some clues which NYE pointed out and some of my own experience, I solved the problem with the game save. NYE is right, and it did have to do with the Vox-GOW war status.

To solve the problem, I had GOW re-offer peace to Vox, and Vox to do the same on their turn, both accepted. After finishing the Lego turn, the game continued as normal.

*Trip throws PTWDG.BIX into the proverbial trash can in the sky.

	11-05-2003 12:54									#2
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I am speechless.

	11-05-2003 12:59									#3
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God bless nye and Trip!

All hail our saviours!



We now apparently need someone from GoW to start with (hopefully the last) replay, adding the peace reneg to whatever was originally done during the GoW turn of 570BC.

HALLELUJAH!

	11-05-2003 13:50									#4
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Good news!

Thanks for your excellent work.

	11-05-2003 13:57									#5
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Fantastic! Thanks a lot.

	11-05-2003 14:12									#6
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Is the bug something that crops up any time a peace treaty hits 20 turns, or only if there is a price attached to the treaty? I know in SP, straight peace treaties with nothing else involved don't require renegotiation at the twenty-turn mark.

	11-05-2003 14:15									#7
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Wow, great news Trip [edit: and nye]!

DeepO

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	11-05-2003 14:23									#8
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quote: Originally posted by nbarclay Is the bug something that crops up any time a peace treaty hits 20 turns, or only if there is a price attached to the treaty? I know in SP, straight peace treaties with nothing else involved don't require renegotiation at the twenty-turn mark.

No clue... All that I know is that manually re-negotiating it caused the game not to crash.

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quote: Originally posted by nbarclay Is the bug something that crops up any time a peace treaty hits 20 turns, or only if there is a price attached to the treaty? I know in SP, straight peace treaties with nothing else involved don't require renegotiation at the twenty-turn mark.

In the Pandora PBEM, there was no price attached in the peace treaty, and still the bug occured.

	11-05-2003 16:23									#10
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I can play the save, just tell me exactly which year and what I need to do to get it going again.

	11-05-2003 18:45									#12
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THIS BETTER WORK...

	11-05-2003 18:56									#13
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570 doesn't allow me the option of offering a peace treaty. There is still one active.

	11-05-2003 19:00									#14
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Wow, If this isn't a previously reported bug, then you can call it the Trip/nye Peace Renegotiation Bug. This needs to be reported to Fraxis.

E_T

	11-05-2003 19:03									#15
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Trip, you might want to keep that bix file around, because what will happen in 20 turns when it gets to the same point with peace.

E_T

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We are in debt with you

	11-05-2003 19:50									#17
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Trip, no effort in the course of Human Events is free. Consider all of that Hard work you did to restore the game as the price that must be payed.

E_T

	11-05-2003 21:47									#18
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Trip, no effort in the course of Human Events is free. Consider all of that Hard work you did to restore the game as the price that must be payed. E_T

Paid for what?

	11-05-2003 22:56									#19
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Trip & nye:

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	11-05-2003 23:59									#20
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb 570 doesn't allow me the option of offering a peace treaty. There is still one active.

Go to the trade screen, click on "active" at the bottom, and either add or delete what's currently there. I'm not sure exactly what I did, but they should both have the same effect.

	12-05-2003 00:19									#21
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WOW!!!!!

Trip and NYE:

I want to be like you guys when I grow up

	12-05-2003 01:28									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Go to the trade screen, click on "active" at the bottom, and either add or delete what's currently there. I'm not sure exactly what I did, but they should both have the same effect.

They may not be able to do it. Vox may need to do it.

	12-05-2003 01:31									#23
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quote: Originally posted by nbarclay Is the bug something that crops up any time a peace treaty hits 20 turns, or only if there is a price attached to the treaty? I know in SP, straight peace treaties with nothing else involved don't require renegotiation at the twenty-turn mark.

No price required. It happens when the 20 turns expires.

It has been reported to Firaxis.

	12-05-2003 02:04									#24
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Trip, nye... Thank-you!

Now I can get back to some honest war reporting...

	12-05-2003 02:38									#25
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Great job Trip!
We are all in your debt!
Have a good night!

	12-05-2003 06:15									#26
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You guys rock.

And now, back to some unfinished business.

	12-05-2003 08:20									#27
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great work guys
* alva puts Real-life back on hold

	12-05-2003 09:11									#28
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This is just great! Trip, NYE- you're the best

For all you anime Otakus out there- because of my utter lack of social life and the fact that this game was off for a while. I got all the episodes of Cowboy Bebob from a friend and watched them. A very well made piece of animation, and the music rocks, but I was quite disturbed by the ending, and now i just can't let go- I can't believe it's over...

If any of you hasn't seen the series, and has a chance to- do so, you won't regret it.


Edit: grammar

	12-05-2003 10:02									#29
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Bebop is definitely a good piece of ink.

One of my favorites along with Eva and Trigun.

	12-05-2003 13:58									#30
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quote: Originally posted by zeit I can't believe it's over...

I know this feeling...
I was feeling the same when I finished watching Full Metal Panic. It was such a cute show, and the visuals were SO ****ING AMAZING, that I just couldn't believe it when it was over.