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May. 10, 2003. 11:06 AM

MONKEYS NOT THE TYPE FOR WRITING

ENGLISH NOT THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE

ANIMALS MAKE A MESS OF COMPUTER

JILL LAWLESS
ASSOCIATED PRESS

LONDON—Give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, the theory goes, and they will eventually produce the works of Shakespeare.

Give six monkeys one computer for a month, and they will make a mess.

Researchers at Plymouth University in England reported this week that primates left alone with a computer attacked the machine and failed to produce a single word.

"They pressed a lot of S's," said researcher Mike Phillips yesterday. "Obviously, English isn't their first language."

In a project intended more as performance art than scientific experiment, faculty and students in the university's media program left a computer in the monkey enclosure at Paignton Zoo in southwest England, home to six Sulawesi crested macaques.

Then, they waited.

At first, said Phillips, "the lead male got a stone and started bashing the hell out of it.

"Another thing they were interested in was in defecating and urinating all over the keyboard," added Phillips, who runs the university's Institute of Digital Arts and Technologies.

Eventually, the monkeys produced five pages of text, composed primarily of the letter S; later, the letters A, J, L and M crept in.

The notion that monkeys typing at random will eventually produce literature is often attributed to Thomas Huxley, a 19th-century scientist who supported Charles Darwin's theories of evolution. Mathematicians have also used it to illustrate concepts of chance.

The Plymouth experiment was funded by England's Arts Council and part of the Vivaria Project, which plans to install computers in zoos across Europe to study differences between animal and artificial life.

Phillips said the results showed that monkeys "are not random generators. They're more complex than that.

"They were quite interested in the screen, and they saw that when they typed a letter, something happened. There was a level of intention there."

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These guy's will be harder to understand than the 1337 hackors!!!

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nice job beta

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"They were quite interested in the screen, and they saw that when they typed a letter, something happened. There was a level of intention there."


Well, I guess everyone has to start somewhere - at least there is a recognition (though mild) between hitting the keys and noticing the screen changing!

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Beta Hound,

If you were King of the Forrrrrrest, not Queen, not Duke, not Prince...

Errr...

Actually, I came to say that your theory is quite correct, as I can prove. As I speak, there's an infinite number of monkeys outside who want to talk to us about this script for Hamlet they've worked out.

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An interesting aspect is that if the monkeys would type words that make perfect sense to men they still wouldn't know what they wrote....

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(They were right! )

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Beta Hound,
there's an infinite number of monkeys outside who want to talk to us about this script for Hamlet they've worked out.



Hitch Hiker's Guide!!

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Eyho, what day is the PC-throwing contesssssssst?

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"Another thing they were interested in was in defecating and urinating all over the keyboard," added Phillips, who runs the university's Institute of Digital Arts and Technologies.


These humans make it sound as if the computer wasnt intended for this purpose.... *Calc zips his pants up after realizing that you humans dont use it in that way.*

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You wear pants???!!!

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What's this? Monkeys in pants? What's this world coming too? Horror of horrors! Does this mean that we're...evolving??!!

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I snatched myself a policehat. I pee in it, or chew it, or sometimes even wear it.

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In that order ?

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*splutter*

(Have you ever seen an Orangutan splutter before? It isn't pretty.)

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quote:
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In that order ?


Basically yes... It's a prim(at)e order.

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