13-05-2003 22:35									#1
	Civ3 Demo @ Download.com Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Noticed demos for both Civ3 and Civ3 GOTY at Download.com

	13-05-2003 22:42									#2
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I'm glad that Civ 3 is available as a demo.

The demo sizes are 377 MB for Civ 3 and 379 MB for the GotY version.

	13-05-2003 22:49									#3
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Well, 18 months after Civ3 hit the shelves. Better late than never

I'm glad they have made this demo too. Is the GOTY version multiplayer ?

	13-05-2003 23:18									#4
	Suffering from ads?

civ3+patch=goty
no mp

	13-05-2003 23:54									#5
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I've notices they don't link to it at Civ3.com or at Firaxis.com. That's too bad, because I feel that some people would still be interested in discovering the game, even today.
Really, the Firaxis Civ doesn't seem to be commercial

	14-05-2003 11:02									#6
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Well by the size of the demos I would say that the hole game is included, and that just some sort of counter has been added to stop playing after one hour. If I were a game developer I wouldn't be happy with that either. It's not safe enough.

	14-05-2003 21:06									#7
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I'm still waiting for the Gold Edition to sell for $15. Please put an annoucement up when we get there!

	14-05-2003 21:12									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

you'll be waiting for a loooong time yin
currently the gold edition (civ3+ptw) is at $60
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...olytonciviliza/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...olytonciviliza/

	15-05-2003 20:16									#9
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A demo... why? Those who wanted to try the game before buying it have already done so, if you know what I mean.

As for the size of the demo, if it is indeed the whole game, they have made a big mistake.

	16-05-2003 10:27									#10
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The whole game is around 650-660 MB for vanilla Civ 3; not sure about the GotY Civ 3, so it is not the whole game.

	16-05-2003 10:45									#11
	Tired of ads?

I'd say that it is the whole game. Can anyone tell me what the point of bringing out this demo is?

	16-05-2003 11:45									#12
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377 MB is less than 3/4 of 650 MB, so a substantial portion is missing; 270+ MB is not included. They probably bareboned it as much as possible. In regular Civ 3, my Art folder is 485 MB; the Sounds folder is another 160 MB. These two folders account for almost all of the game HD space, with a little more than 10 MB for the rest of the game.

	16-05-2003 16:58									#13
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quote: Originally posted by kring 377 MB is less than 3/4 of 650 MB, so a substantial portion is missing; 270+ MB is not included.

Maybe they removed the unnecessary and bugged code...

Just Kidding

Me too can't understand the concept of a demo so far from original release. As it is, I'd bet for a bold move: make the original (patched) game released as cheap 15$ or free.

The two expansion alone will gain some more customer from this move, and so Firaxis and Atari will gain an added flow of fresh money. But I'm a dreamer...

	16-05-2003 23:53									#14
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Kring,
before civ came out in Europe, I had an alternative version, it was packed in two files (the second one being the sound files and it was fully working ...full intro movie, all sounds, victory movie etc...). Even added together this was just about the same size as the demo. Maybe they cut out a few things, but it is possible the demo IS the full game.

	17-05-2003 01:02									#15
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Now that Conquests was announced, I'd say that the demo intends to grab some new players, those who didn't buy Civ3 neither its first XP. It's all a marketing effort... "Hey, they will release a second expansion for Civ3." "What do I care? I don't even have the original game..." "Hm, there's a Civ3 demo available at Download.com, maybe you should try it."

	17-05-2003 02:55									#16
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I've just seen the demo at fileplanet has been downloaded nearly 600 times in the past 5 days. Not bad at all for an old game whose demo is widely unknown. I'm sure this figure would have been way higher if there was a direct link at Civ3.com though