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SlowwHand is offline SlowwHand
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I guess I was wrong.
Evidently the Okies must have stormed the building.

Fugitive Texas Democrats declare victory
Promise return to Capitol Friday
Thursday, May 15, 2003 Posted: 6:07 PM EDT (2207 GMT)


AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) -- Texas Democratic lawmakers who fled to neighboring Oklahoma say they're going back to Austin early Friday after a four-day walkout that killed a Republican-backed redistricting plan they said would have cost them five seats in the U.S. Congress.

A group of 51 Democrats from the Texas House of Representatives fled to a hotel in Ardmore, Oklahoma, evading state police sent to bring them back to Austin and preventing a quorum in the GOP-run House.

"We feel that we have killed the redistricting bill as of now, or at least as of tonight at 12 o'clock," said state Rep. Craig Eiland, D-Galveston. "And that's why we'll be returning to Austin to continue and finish the work that we have to do."

The redistricting plan, which Democrats called an abuse of power by the Legislature's Republican majority, will die in the House if not voted on by midnight Thursday. Eiland said lawmakers plan to return to work Friday morning.

"It will be our intent to get back to Texas, hopefully unobstructed, so that we can be at our desks in the morning at the beginning of business," he said.

Without a quorum of two-thirds of the 150 House members, legislative business has come to a standstill. House Speaker Tom Craddick said Thursday he was "disappointed in the way they treated the process."

'Chicken Ds'
Republicans mocked the fleeing lawmakers as the "Chicken Ds" and printed playing cards with their pictures on them -- much like the cards U.S. troops in Iraq have been issued to help identify fugitive Iraqi leaders.

But they drew support from famed Texas singer-songwriter Willie Nelson, who sent a batch of his trademark red bandannas to their hotel Wednesday night along with the message, "Stand your ground."

House Republicans voted to send Texas Rangers and state troopers after the lawmakers to bring them back to Austin. But the legislators were outside the troopers' jurisdiction once they crossed state lines.

Craddick, R-Midland, said the walkout has killed more than 400 House bills and could cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars, and damaged the state's reputation.

"We're on the late-night talk shows and things like that, and I think that that harms the image of the state overall," he said.

The Democrats say they would lose as many as five seats in Congress under the Republican redistricting plan. They say the plan is being pushed through the Legislature at the behest of Texas congressman Tom DeLay, the majority leader in the U.S. House of Representatives.

DeLay has said that "Texans deserve representation that reflects their values and beliefs," noting that all statewide officeholders and a majority of the Legislature are Republicans.

And several black Democrats refused to join the walkout, since the redistricting plan would have created a majority African-American congressional district.

"If they come back and assume that everything's going to be hunky-dory, I think they're mistaken," said Rep. Ron Wilson, D-Houston.



Republican Gov. Rick Perry has been very critical of the Democratic walkout.

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Texas' new motto: "Riggin' the election process... Republican style!"


Oh, do try to keep up, Sava. That's already Florida's motto.

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"As the evil Tom DeLay advanced on Austin to bring a reign of terror and gerrymandering not seen since the advance of Santa Ana on the Alamo, the citizens of Texas were nobly defended by a brave group of Democrats who took a stand against the advancing Republican horde in far-off Oklahoma in a fortress known as the Holiday Inn. There they withstood the desperate assault of the elite Texas Rangers shock troops and by their valiant stand defeated the evil Tom DeLay and his gerrymandering pirate crew. Their brave stand against heavy odds will always be remembered by Texans who will henceforth whisper, hoot and holler "Fugitive Democrats" with the same reverence they give " Remember the Alamo."

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OMG, Ned.

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I just couldn't resist!

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So tomorrow is the big day. After friday the Republi-crooks can't introduce the legislation allowing them to rig the districts.

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No. The redistricting is shot. Midnight tonight.

You need to read about this better.
It's not just Republicans who are pissed.
The people they represent are pissed.
Minorities are pissed.

To quote what Ming might say, "These guys are toast".

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I'm betting people aren't as pissed as the Republi-crooks are trying to make it seem.

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You'd be losing.

Imran made another point about it all.
These guys are being paid, to act childish.

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Did I? Well, that sounds smart, so I guess I'll claim it .

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You can tell when government is being run fairly because the minority respects and submits to the process even when the other side wins.

You can tell when government is being run unfairly because the minority packs up and heads to Oklahoma.

The Republicans thought they'd stolen some seats in the House. Now they're whining because they weren't allowed to cheat.

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I'm pretty sure Wraith is right. The representatives' rights to free speech do not exempt them from their Constitutional (federal and state) duties.

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Shi, if they threw the guys in jail, they still wouldn't have quorum.


In this case, the arrested pols would not be marched to prison -- they would be marched straight to the legislative chamber.

In the event of a similar problem in Congress, the Master-At-Arms is empowered to arrest them and bring them in.

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Well, that was exhilarating. Thanks, Texas.

Sloww, I fail to see how this is acting childish. Surely it's no less of a copout than, say, a pocket veto...

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Wait, its over?

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You figure it should be safe for them to go home now. The Republi-crooks can no longer rig things until next session.

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You figure it should be safe for them to go home now.
Do you think they'll have them arrested? It would be the perfect ending to this fiasco. I'm sure they could cut a deal with a few of them to get a quorum.

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Craddick and his "Dirty Thirty" colleagues were protesting the heavy-handed actions of then House Speaker Gus Mutscher and his cronies who were involved in the Sharpstown bribery-conspiracy scandal.


If we're going to quote the article, we might as well quote their cause.

Notice, nothing to do with gerrymandering of an electoral district.

Also note, as Lefty already did, that the protest did not bust a quorum.

 
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