22-05-2003 07:56									#61
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I thought that all Turtledove novels were WORSE Turtledove novel. A BETTER Turtledove novel is something I'd like to see.

	22-05-2003 07:57									#62
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You know what I think? I think that Turtledove is so popular on this board we could have a "Turtledove" topic and get enough nominations and interest.

Frankly, I think the man was writing a bit before 1992, but nothing that anybody cares about other than maybe Guns of the South.

	22-05-2003 08:01									#63
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Guns of the South was much better than 'How Few Remain', St. Leo.

The main problem is that the new people in sci-fi aren't as good as the oldies. Though China Mieville may buck that trend .

	22-05-2003 08:06									#64
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The American Civil War == Yawn.

I nominate Call of Cthulhu by H.P. Lovecraft.

	22-05-2003 12:34									#65
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ummm

John

did you not see my nomination?

Jon Miller

	22-05-2003 14:43									#66
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John,

Please use this blurb for my book

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	22-05-2003 18:01									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller ummm John did you not see my nomination? Jon Miller

Nope. That's why I posted my list: to make sure I listed everybody.

	23-05-2003 05:08									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui ... well because if he has... I'll nominate a BETTER Turtledove novel .

I picked How Few Remain because (a) it's a stand alone and (b) it's a good intro to the Great War series.

	23-05-2003 07:06									#69
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Lonestar: I personally considered it the worst non-fantasy Turtledove I've read.

	24-05-2003 07:44									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Lonestar: I personally considered it the worst non-fantasy Turtledove I've read.

Fine, howabout the first of the WorldWar Tetraology then?

JohnT Change my Nomination!

In the Balance
Harry Turtledove

This intelligent speculative novel depicts an alternate history in which, at the height of World War II, Earth is attacked by alien beings with weapons far more destructive than any possessed by the Allied or Axis forces. Turtledove ( The Guns of the South ) gives a surprisingly convincing flavor to the time-worn story of warring nations uniting to repel extraterrestrials; his human characters, both actual and invented, ring true as they struggle to trust each other after years of enmity, and although the alien threat has a B-movie feel, he makes an effort to portray the invaders sympathetically as well. The first in a projected series, the book ends where it began: in and around a battle. The smooth writing is marred only by slightly overdone dialogue for real-life figures like General Patton. The historical details, especially those concerning the weapons and methods available in the 1940s to defend Earth, are accurate and well rendered.

	24-05-2003 08:59									#71
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How about American Front? I hate the Worldwar series.

	24-05-2003 09:02									#72
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We're going to do How Few Remains for the simple reason that the WorldWar or American Front novels are not truly self-contained, unlike HFR.

	24-05-2003 09:08									#73
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Guns of the South is self contained .

How Few Remains is kinda part of the American Front series.

	24-05-2003 09:23									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Btw, it's a travesty we haven't picked Dune yet.

Ain't that the truth.

	24-05-2003 11:21									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Eli newly published novelist = no scanned versions on the net = bad.

library. Not just a part of the Civ game. Exists in real world too.

	24-05-2003 11:24									#76
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I vote for Jennifer Government.

	24-05-2003 12:00									#77
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Thanks, GP. I was going to allow it anyway, but now you've saved me the problem of making an excuse.

	24-05-2003 13:54									#78
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Turtledove's in? So is the '93 rule still in effect?

	24-05-2003 20:04									#79
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no. Max Berry.

	25-05-2003 00:04									#80
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo How about American Front? I hate the Worldwar series.

You just like American Front because The AngloCanadians get their butt whupped.