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PrinceBimz is offline PrinceBimz
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Apr 1999
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One... the auto transport, I like that its a great idea. Can have some killer island hop battles like this! The only time I seen auto transport used was in Disciples and I liked it there too.

Two... the airports. Much easier to get all your planes to land or scamble etc. Alot better control over aircraft in RoN then how it is in EE.

Inverse Icarus is offline Inverse Icarus
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One... the auto transport, I like that its a great idea. Can have some killer island hop battles like this! The only time I seen auto transport used was in Disciples and I liked it there too.

Two... the airports. Much easier to get all your planes to land or scamble etc. Alot better control over aircraft in RoN then how it is in EE.


i concur whole heartedly. i didnt really read up on RoN too extensively, and when i saw my tanks turn into boats to cross a lake, i was throughly impressed.

do they take time to pack/unpack or is it instant?

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Feb 2001
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I HATED how the air units worked in EE. It was freaking impossible to set up an organised attack.

PrinceBimz is offline PrinceBimz
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Apr 1999
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Let me add a third... How troops are created in groups of 3 men. That is better, armies look more realistic now because there are alot of troops on the field. If you build just 3 units of troops there will be 9 men out there. Battles get more bloody thats for sure.

GodSpawn is offline GodSpawn
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Oct 2001
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Yes, it nicely solves the scaling problem prevalent in most RTS - a tank is much bigger then a person, yet most RTS's count a tank and a person both as one pop point. RON doesn't.

PrinceBimz is offline PrinceBimz
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Apr 1999
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Adding to my post here yet again... this time a fourth thing...

The bonus resources, the ones you send your merchants too. That is something new I have not seen in an RTS game yet. It reminds me how the CIV series has food, luxuries and other bonus terrains. Yet another feature I like

albiedamned is offline albiedamned
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Sep 2001
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I agree that the bonus resources are cool. But that also points out one aspect of Civ that definitely didn't make it into RoN: terrain types. Sure there are mountains, forests, and water, but other than that terrain is irrelevant. It makes no difference if you play on a desert map or a tropical jungle map - you can still plop down farms and gain food anywhere. You have to consider terrain a little bit when placing cities, but so far there seems to be plenty of forests and mountains so it's not too important. Strategic placement of cities, ie, building towards the enemy or taking advantage of chokepoints, is much more important. In Civ it's all about finding the best spot based on surrounding terrain and the resources that terrain can provide, which makes it more strategic in my opinion.

I'm not complaining or saying it should be in RoN, just pointing out the absence of it.

MxM is offline MxM
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Jan 2000
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I agree that the bonus resources are cool. But that also points out one aspect of Civ that definitely didn't make it into RoN: terrain types. Sure there are mountains, forests, and water, but other than that terrain is irrelevant. It makes no difference if you play on a desert map or a tropical jungle map - you can still plop down farms and gain food anywhere. You have to consider terrain a little bit when placing cities, but so far there seems to be plenty of forests and mountains so it's not too important. Strategic placement of cities, ie, building towards the enemy or taking advantage of chokepoints, is much more important. In Civ it's all about finding the best spot based on surrounding terrain and the resources that terrain can provide, which makes it more strategic in my opinion.

I'm not complaining or saying it should be in RoN, just pointing out the absence of it.



And I AM complaining. It would be nice if we had to take into concideration terain. May be in expansion pack ...

Mahdimael is offline Mahdimael
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May 2001
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Yeah, it would be cool if some units could move through forests and mountains. I haven't noticed too many major hills, but that may be a function of the maps that are in the game.

Madine is offline Madine
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Sep 2001
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Well you can't build on rocks

bhg_paul is offline bhg_paul
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Actually the "terrain types" are different in the sense that the map types have different amounts of the various resources. Some maps have less metal, some less timber, etc....

s_qwert63 is offline s_qwert63
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May 2002
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doesnt anyone else think that this demo was released a bit too late.
i mean if they would have relased it a month of two ago we would have complained and *****ed about it and the creators could have actually changed something. now our *****ing is irrelevant so lets cut it to a minimum

oh wait one thing i want to ***** about...
the size of the cities! i think cities should look bigger and have more buildings in them... pweez

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Jul 2001
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Yes I agree that the airplanes are much easier to controll. Anther thing I like, tanks are actually usefull and you want them in your army. Unlike EE were tanks were totaly useless. Also I think the graphics are much better then EE.

MahoTsukai is offline MahoTsukai
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The User Interface is fantastic !! The way how it works is so elegant, yet effective, I'm really impressed

Also the way Atomic weapons are handled yum yum.

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May 2002
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The User Interface is fantastic !! The way how it works is so elegant, yet effective, I'm really impressed

Also the way Atomic weapons are handled yum yum.


NUKE NUKE NUKE! YAY
i love ICBM's!
plant spies in your enemies turf, find where his siloes are.
send a few cruise missiles to destroy them or send in a carpetbombing wave of B52's to **** everything up...
then nuke the bastard back to the stoneage(literally).
overun with infantry

PrinceBimz is offline PrinceBimz
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Apr 1999
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I am just about sick of this thread now I mean I first said thumbs up to 2 more things but now after playing more and more... I can't add to this anymore! This list is so large now. Try thumbs up to about 200 things now! Who would want to type all of that?? I can hardly imagine how good the full version will be. RoN is a major hit about to rock the RTS genre like never before.

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