15-05-2003 09:11									#1
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let's get this game going again!

	15-05-2003 20:01									#2
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Pamplona: builds settlers, drops to size 4, reset the WFs as requested below:

code:
    #2, shielded grassland
    #7, cattle bonus
    #8, cattle bonus
    #19, shielded grassland

Build me a Temple, I say... BUILD IT!!!

[ooc]: please, set the queue to build a Temple [/ooc]
Thanks

	15-05-2003 23:13									#3
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The Church of Sts. Iago and Crispin is completed this turn. I suggest we turn it over to barracks now, so that we might start cranking out some Medieval Infantry...

Don Iago Calamari de Toledo

	16-05-2003 01:02									#4
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Orders for Zaragoza

Now that the time is going again, the secretary of Zaragoza sneaked away with all the important documents in which is described what is being produced in the city. I hope he is not going to hand it over to the enemy. I have tried to stop him, but the guards were still a bit dizzy of the sudden time-stop. I'll appoint a new more thrustworthy secretary soon. The problem is but the corruption. I wonder how much money he has received to steal the documents.

I hope that the His Majesty can forgive me this. I promise to do everything I can to prevent corruption in the future.

The problem I face now is but what the current production is and if it is worth and wise to change it.

I intend to build a library, but I have to aquire new information first.

Perhaps the Royal Secretary can help me with it?

Duke Aidun Cian of Zaragoza

	16-05-2003 08:13									#5
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The team of Astrologix Workers, Visgoth slaves and Dejon workers will have finished building that mine at Leon #14, they will start on a Road (3 turns to complete).

* E_T wonders why a mine was built when Leon can't use it for a while...

The Worker team of Arnelos Worker and History Guy Serfs will have completed the road to Toledo, they will move to new tasks.
The will both move NE to Toledo #5 (a mountain). Then they will road it the next turn. This is part of the military road network (for rapid transit without crossing the river too many times).

E_T

	16-05-2003 08:36									#6
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Madrid, no changes

Valencia, No changes

You might need to change the WF in Toledo, or keep it the same for one more turn (Ichanged teh WF there last turn).

E_T

	17-05-2003 00:45									#7
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quote: Originally posted by E_T * E_T wonders why a mine was built when Leon can't use it for a while...

I wondered the same thing myself.

Perhaps it influence me when I changed the final location for the south-Pamplona city to where the settler is now.

Building on this site will expand the borders so that the Leon mine will now be usable by either Leon or (new city).

--Togas

	17-05-2003 00:46									#8
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Central Settler group BUILD CITY.

Eastern Settler group BUILD CITY.

Western Settler group moves south.


I need names for these cities. Please post suggestions in this thread.

--Togas

	17-05-2003 00:52									#9
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Fibrizzo made a list of names some time ago

quote: Originally posted by Fibrizzo And this is a possible set of names for the cities, inspired by the map of regions drawn by Arnelos (City # - Name) 05 - Vigo 06 - León 07 - Salamanca 08 - Toledo 09 - Valencia 10 - Murcia 11 - Albacete 12 - Badajoz 13 - Lisboa 14 - Sevilla 15 - Cádiz 16 - Bilbao 17 - Santander

Here is the page I got it from:

The Map Room

Aidun

	17-05-2003 01:06									#10
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Given this list of names and the location of the new cities, I propose the following names:

Central site: Salamanca

Eastern site: Bilbao

--Togas

	17-05-2003 02:57									#11
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They look as very good names

Our cities list becomes bigger as time passes!

	20-05-2003 00:21									#12
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Barcelona : no changes

	20-05-2003 10:32									#13
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Results

ND is loading a sword into their galley on the west coast.
ND has a spear escorting a settler into the north valley

I offer WM to GoW.

GS has a ship 2 tiles off our shore. Spotted to the east of the Santa Maria. Likely there to watch for naval passage. Could indicate a shortcut, but means that GS has spotted our galley.

SALAMANCA FOUNDED

BILBAO FOUNDED

We are spending 23gpt on unit support. The new cities help, but we still need more.

There are Magyar tribes near Valencia

We are weak compared to GS and Vox. Average to Lego and ND. Strong to GoW.

GoW is working on the Great Library.


Military:
Settler in Pamplona moves NE, E, E towards Madrid.
Western Settler Group moves SOUTH

Santa Maria moves NE, NE, N

MadExp HOLDS
Feos HOLDS (and heals)
Watch Rider 2 HOLDS
GuObs SE
Bulger SE
Jungle Patrol W


workers:
Astro, Visigoth, Dejon all work on ROAD
History & Arnelos move NE


cities:
Toledo finishes Temple, starts on Barracks
Pamplona finishes settler, starts on Temple. WF adjusted.

Zaragoza will have sword in 2, produces 8 commerce - 2 corruption. We are in 100% tax so building a library would serve little purpose. This is our ONLY city with barracks and must continue to build mil units.

Leon WF adjusted to use the new Mine. It will now grow in 2, build worker in 2.

Salamanca production set for worker. Will be done in 10 turns. Growth in 7.

Bilbao set to produce worker. Will be done in 10 turns. Growth in 10.

Santiago grew. New WF set to dyes.

Screenshots are posted here

--Togas

	20-05-2003 12:10									#14
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oh oh! If GS has seen our galley then the surprise is gone

http://www.arrakis.es/~oliverfa/War...ongers530BC.SAV

	20-05-2003 21:08									#15
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This is troublesome. With weak military and no advantage in surprise, we are in trouble.

	20-05-2003 21:38									#16
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quote: Originally posted by OliverFA oh oh! If GS has seen our galley then the surprise is gone

Does anyone remember the line of sight of a galley? Maybe its only one tile, but I can't recall

	20-05-2003 21:46									#17
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They can see our Galley, but they cannot tell if it is loaded or not. Furthermore, it's ONE GALLEY. What is one galley going to do to hurt them? We're just exploring our coastline, that's all.

I think GS stationed that ship there to watch for GoW suprise drops in their rear. Next turn our galley will be out of their sight, they won't know if we're going north or south, and they won't know if we have multiple ships if we NAME ALL OF OUR SHIPS THE SAME temporarily.

I recommend that once our next galley is built that we name IT the Santa Maria, and then rename the other galley to the Nina.

--Togas

	20-05-2003 22:07									#18
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A wise and prudent suggestion, Milord.

	20-05-2003 23:49									#19
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Sorry I didn't get explicit orders up - t'was a chok-full long weekend here.

With each passing turn I feel more certain that Operation Engineering Payment is just that, and no more. We are paying a price of units (doomed ones) and a reputation hit with GS for Engineering.

	21-05-2003 00:12									#20
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I am beginning to wonder if and when we should continue research. Perhaps after we aquire Education? Any thoughts?

--Togas

	21-05-2003 01:26									#21
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I am beginning to wonder if and when we should continue research. Perhaps after we aquire Education? Any thoughts?

--Togas