15-05-2003 22:01									#1
	MTA gets it in the eye! Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/75809.htm

For those unawares, the MTA recently raised transit fees from $1.50 per ride to $2.00. It was subsequently discovered that the MTA had outrighted cooked the books, hiding a $300 million projected surplus.

Of course, now we also know they weren't forthcoming in their negotiations with the transit workers months ago. This is a huge PR nightmare for the MTA, as they have totally lost the trust of the NYC people.

Good for the judge! Yay!

	15-05-2003 22:03									#2
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as a new yorker, i feel obliged to post in this thread.





that is all.

	15-05-2003 22:11									#3
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Like this will actually get rolled back....

I am happy the judge rulled this way (stick it to the MTA bastards and their two books!), but we all know 1. the MTA will appeal, and 2., fares will still be higher than 1.50 by the end of the day. There is little we can do to stop that "authority".

	15-05-2003 22:24									#4
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hi ,

mta card = lower fares , ....

have a nice day

	15-05-2003 22:25									#5
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I say we treat the MTA like a White House intern and f'the hell out of them.

Last edited by Oerdin on 15-05-2003 at 22:48

	15-05-2003 22:34									#6
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hi ,

one can only wonder what they have standing at the bank , .....

well they have to buy new trains , busses , work on the tunnels in a couple of years , it costs money , at least they put some on the side now for the near future , ....

still that 30 day unlimited card is the best deal , .....

, usd 2 , that means soon there shall be a whole load of two dollar bills and suzie b anthony's again on the tollboots

have a nice day

	15-05-2003 22:40									#7
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It went up to $2? ****ing A! I'm gonna be in the city on Memorial Day weekend and it's already going to cost a pretty penny (Bachelor party for one of my best friends). Yeesh!

MTA sucks! Yeah!

-Arrian

	15-05-2003 23:10									#8
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quote: In his 19-page decision, York supported the Straphangers Campaign's arguments that the MTA's failure to reveal everything about its financial condition made the hearings a sham.

19 pages for what Boris told us in 2 sentences....

quote: Like this will actually get rolled back....

GePap, You are probably correct...Sadly

	16-05-2003 00:59									#9
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Boris: Just heard on the radio that the rollback has been put on hold. The MTA has apparently filed an intent to appeal. Better get those two dollar bills out. Looks like GePap was right on this one.

	16-05-2003 01:12									#10
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who cares? as long as the funday unlimited pass still remains as $4, Im good.

	16-05-2003 01:43									#11
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Of course GePap is right. Wrists will be slapped. Perhaps even a head or two will roll. But the government will sure as hell keep its extra revenue!

-Arrian

	16-05-2003 01:52									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II who cares? as long as the funday unlimited pass still remains as $4, Im good.

Well, then you must be awfull, cause its $7 now.

The problem is that, as the MTA said, they really don;t have to tell anyone anything about their finances in order for them to raise fares. I would hope the state would ammend the MTA's charter to make its accounting transparent, but like hell that will happen.

I don't think fares could have stayed at 1.50 for long, but 1.75 (while a more confusing number) would have been enough.

	16-05-2003 01:55									#13
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Now, now...let's not throw in the towell too soon. An appeal is to be expected. Maybe the courts will keep smackin' em down!

	16-05-2003 01:57									#14
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1.50, 1.75, and 2.00 are all nice round numbers.

the CTA's a bit less easy, what with the 1.80 figure if you transfer...

	16-05-2003 02:05									#15
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The article quotes a figure of 7 million riders. I assume that this is per day. a $.50 increase translates into $3.5 million per day. Even if you don't count weekends this is nearly an extra $ 1 billion per year. Now that ain't pocket change!

	16-05-2003 02:05									#16
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I say we should do something like London. Anyone driving a car into Manhattan should have to pay $20 for the privilege.

Then charge them $40 to take their car out again. If they don't have the cash, confiscate their car and auction it. The money can go to giving MTA personnel a raise.

	16-05-2003 02:10									#17
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The increase to 2 bucks was not as bad if you buy unlimited ride cards. The 30 day went up by only $7 dollars, making it a great deal.

They could lower the per ride fee but keep the new unlimited prices (though the fun pass ain;t so fun anymore)