23-05-2003 19:35									#31
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quote: i think this is a temporary background until they make up something unique

I hope so but doubt it.

	23-05-2003 19:45									#32
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Oi!

You're right. But it still doesn't suggest that this is the ancient Gilgamesh.

	23-05-2003 19:53									#33
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy Oi! You're right. But it still doesn't suggest that this is the ancient Gilgamesh.

The pictures file name at civ3.com is gilgamesh - that suggests that it is

	23-05-2003 21:45									#34
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Elden :
It sure is Gilgamesh, but he may not be the ancient Gilgamesh. His clothes indeed look more early medieval than ancient (and Gilgamesh was veeeeery ancient).
We'll know in the future when all pictures of Gilgamesh will be released. Perhaps the medieval Gilgamesh is in full plate ? Or perhaps the ancient Gilgamesh is nearly naked ? We'll know at some point in the future.

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	23-05-2003 21:48									#35
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Personally, I don't care if the backgrounds are unique or not. I don't even care about them adding any new civs. I want better gameplay and features, dammit!

	24-05-2003 07:27									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Elden : It sure is Gilgamesh, but he may not be the ancient Gilgamesh. His clothes indeed look more early medieval than ancient (and Gilgamesh was veeeeery ancient). We'll know in the future when all pictures of Gilgamesh will be released. Perhaps the medieval Gilgamesh is in full plate ? Or perhaps the ancient Gilgamesh is nearly naked ? We'll know at some point in the future.

The background being the Hannibal Ancient Background suggests that he is the Ancient leaderhead.

	24-05-2003 08:15									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov This is quibbling. It is like saying James I can't be considered an English king because he was from Scotland. Sargon was from Akkad, but he ruled over Sumeria for 54 years, which was quite a hefty timespan. And I doubt Akkad was that much culturally different from Sumeria, although they were Semitic peoples. Considering the liberties they take with other rulers (Joan of Arc, Hannibal), having Sargon as their ruler wouldn't be inappropriate, and it would be recognizing history's first great conqueror. It would seem to me more appropriate than Gilgamesh, who never ruled over all of Sumeria, but was just the king of one city-state.

I certainly agree that Sargon deserves a lot more credit than he gets, since he effectively was the FIRST "great leader," but I'm not really sure it counts. Sure, Akkadia ruled Sumeria, but that's like saying an American president could be the ruler of a Hawaiian civ because Hawaii is presently part of America. Sargon CONQUERED Sumeria, but his larger empire was AKKADIAN.

The primary evidence that the two cultures were fairly distinct is evidenced by the change in the official spoken and written language in Mesopotamia at the time of the Akkadian empire: From earlier Sumerian to Akkadian. Sounds more like Sargon conquered Sumeria and rush-built a few Temples and Libraries.

I'd rather see Akkadia than Sumeria, but we get what we get. Firaxis does apparently listen in when we complain about leaders though. Remember the outcry when Hannibal was listed as "King Hannibal?" I don't remember anyone mentioning anything, but sure enough he was "General Hannibal" in PTW. I doubt they'd actually change their minds about an entire CIV, but you never know. Sumeria was such a piddly little place.

	24-05-2003 20:56									#38
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Nakar, it might not have been much, but it was still the "cradle of civilization".

Elden, you may be correct, but then I'd have to ask "Why dress a 2700 BC leader in 900 AD clothing?" I may be shocked and see that you are correct, but I sincerely doubt it.

	25-05-2003 02:07									#39
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which leaderhead has a picture of Joan d'Arc in the midieval ages in the background, i think its Cleopatra, i think its awoman at least...

	25-05-2003 03:12									#40
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quote: Originally posted by bobbo008 which leaderhead has a picture of Joan d'Arc in the midieval ages in the background, i think its Cleopatra, i think its awoman at least...

It's the Spanish queen...

cheers

	25-05-2003 03:54									#41
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quote: Originally posted by statusperfect Great to see it back and kicking ixnay. It is very appreciated. How about adding UU pics too? cheers

hi ,

they are posted in the pictures thread > http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=61406

have a nice day

	10-07-2003 06:25									#42
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bump

Two new leaderheads are up at Gamespot. One definitely appears to be Incan. I reckon that it is Atahualpa.

The other is a bit harder to place. It appears to show a Polynesian, in my opinion.

	10-07-2003 07:29									#43
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy bump Two new leaderheads are up at Gamespot. One definitely appears to be Incan. I reckon that it is Atahualpa. The other is a bit harder to place. It appears to show a Polynesian, in my opinion.

hi ,

it could be mayan also , ..... but actually the first impression would be Azt , yes it sounds funny , ....... but he has something over him that makes one think of azt's , .......

anyway , all pics in the pic thread

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	17-09-2003 22:00									#44
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a nice little *bump*

	18-09-2003 07:33									#45
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ixnay,

The guy with the nice clothes and the headress et al is probably Incan. The guy with the revolting ears is probably Mayan.

	18-09-2003 12:44									#46
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here they are

Attachment: cfc21.jpg
This has been downloaded 276 time(s).

	18-09-2003 12:46									#47
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and the other one

Attachment: cfc22.jpg
This has been downloaded 276 time(s).

	27-09-2003 23:35									#48
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Bump; I added the new leaders and fixed a few of the name issues.

Also, if this could get moved to the Conquests forum, it'd be appreciated.

	28-09-2003 00:37									#49
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You could PM Ming about it. Than he'd move it

	28-09-2003 01:07									#50
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BTW,

Here's the ancient Mursilis: http://pc.ign.com/articles/451/451862p1.html?fromint=1

Also, William of Orange was never King of Holland. The title would be Stadholder.

	28-09-2003 04:15									#51
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quote: Here's the ancient Mursilis: http://pc.ign.com/articles/451/451862p1.html?fromint=1

Added.

	28-09-2003 15:47									#52
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy Also, William of Orange was never King of Holland. The title would be Stadholder.

Yes that's true, but after the napoleonic era The Netherlands became a monarchy with William 1 (Willem 1) as its king and the two kings after him were also named William.
I haven't read anywhere which William they meant.

	28-09-2003 21:42									#53
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I would expect that they are referring to Stadtholder Willem of Orange, or Prince William, as he is the most famous of all leaders of Holland. But you may well be right, Mattaba.

	28-09-2003 23:59									#54
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Are there any similar pictures of the current Civ3 and Civ3PTW leaders? I've never seen some of them in the modern era.

	29-09-2003 00:02									#55
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quote: Originally posted by pikesfan Are there any similar pictures of the current Civ3 and Civ3PTW leaders? I've never seen some of them in the modern era.

hi ,

in the apolyton dir there is a full set of them , ......

have a nice day

	30-09-2003 19:40									#56
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Just don't look at modern Joan d'Arc

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Bump for the first pics of Theodora and William.

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They don't seem to be coming in, ixnay.

	11-10-2003 07:07									#59
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Try refreshing the page. I had that problem when I was using IE.

	11-10-2003 14:01									#60
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there was e medieval pic of the inca leader int he trailer, but ihave no idea on how to get the to an image (print screen wont work for me when watching a video file)