16-05-2003 15:11									#1
	Petition for a worldwide protection system for civ3:conquests Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Hi all,

please all contact Firaxis to make sure they'll press Atari to make a worldwide protection system, so the people from Europe will be able to use the patches as well.

If you're from the states, please support your fellow gamers in europe.

Since the Firaxis website didn't put 'Conquests' on their mail-form yet I have created an improved forum you can use to mail firaxis.

(it includes the Civilization III: Conquests option)

ADVANCED E-MAIL FORM

This is what I have sent to them:

Hi,

it's great that you guys are working on a new expansion for civilization III.

I have one major concern / question,
Can you make sure that this XP has a worldwide copy protection system instead of the regional system Play The World had.

It's a major dissapointment to live in Europe and have to wait months for your patches, if they even come to europe.

Thus, in name of all european gamers,
please make the copy protection worldwide!

thanks in advance and good luck!

Robert Plomp
The Netherlands

	16-05-2003 15:22									#2
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quote: Great to hear you are making a new Civ3 XP. I have concerns about the copy protection systems though. Would it be possible to have the same copy protection for all localized versions? The PtW localized patch system was a great dissapointment as you couldn't "play the world" beacause of the localized patches. (People in different countries running different versions.) Making all gamers get the same version would be a great boost to the multiplaying community. Thank you! And goos luck designing the new XP, your games are always appreciated! Viktor Voigt Höör, Sweden

cheers

	16-05-2003 15:47									#3
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might want to have each person customise it some or they'll just think it's mail spam - any excuse will do for infocrap, oops I mean Atari, I'm sure

	17-05-2003 00:29									#4
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If they diddn't realise this by now, they don't deserve to be around anymore...

	17-05-2003 03:05									#5
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quote: Originally posted by alva If they diddn't realise this by now, they don't deserve to be around anymore...

you can't be too straightforward when it comes too computer devs

cheers

	17-05-2003 04:04									#6
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Sent mine (custom).
We have to let Firaxis and Atari know of our problem if we want a chance to have it solved. As long as we are polite and constructive, I don't see why Firaxis would consider these spam mails.

	17-05-2003 14:39									#7
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That's true.
Just stay polite, it's more to be sure that they know that we bother.
I think in the current develop process stage it's still possible to decide on the copy protection system.

	17-05-2003 18:36									#8
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hi ,

, they should start to use the same system on each new made cd of civ III and ptw aswell , ......


and down with the local language distribution and patches , ..... this cost's them money anyway that could be used to build and improve the game , .....


cybershy its a great idea

oh yes , in the MAC forums we asked the same , yet the y say that its not worth it , ..... wait till they see a million emails , ..... one million potential customers

have a nice day

	17-05-2003 19:32									#9
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quote: Originally posted by panag and down with the local language distribution and patches , ..... this cost's them money anyway that could be used to build and improve the game , .....

Localized versions bring them money, because they appeal to people who don't master English very well. And because there can be legal issues otherwise (I think that it is impossible to seel an English Only game in mainstream trade in France - One has to sell it through the 'import' network)

	17-05-2003 19:45									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Localized versions bring them money, because they appeal to people who don't master English very well. And because there can be legal issues otherwise (I think that it is impossible to seel an English Only game in mainstream trade in France - One has to sell it through the 'import' network)

hi ,

they would only have to translate the text , not the programing code , ..... this way they would be compatible with each other , ....

in any case most people would not bother to buy it in english , .....

that a manual and in game help is in the local languages okay , but all the rest should be the same , ...

they are missing out on sales cause people cant play with each other , ...... this get s a bigger cut in revenue then not having local versions , .....

have a nice day

	18-05-2003 01:25									#11
	Re: Petition for a worldwide protection system for civ3:conquests Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

quote: Originally posted by CyberShy Since the Firaxis website didn't put 'Conquests' on their mail-form yet I have created an improved forum you can use to mail firaxis. (it includes the Civilization III: Conquests option)

You should change the VALUE of the OPTION as well.

	18-05-2003 02:03									#12
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I'll send one out for you guys. what email address do I have to spam?
I'm not even gonna buy the new expansion. I already paid 70 dollars total for the last 2 things, so I'm giving up on dishing all my money out to these bums but I'd be glad to help you guys out.

	18-05-2003 02:28									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Anfernio I'll send one out for you guys. what email address do I have to spam? I'm not even gonna buy the new expansion. I already paid 70 dollars total for the last 2 things, so I'm giving up on dishing all my money out to these bums but I'd be glad to help you guys out.

hi ,

, and how many hours of fun did you had , .....

that would come to about what , 0.000001 cents an hour , ..... thats cheap entertainment

have a nice day

	18-05-2003 02:32									#14
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Anfernio,

use that link I placed at the top of this page!
Thanks for your help!

	18-05-2003 04:10									#15
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But it will look as PTW feedback to them unless you change the VALUE atribute.

	18-05-2003 13:45									#16
	Got spare money?

We need all patches we can get...
(sent mine)

	20-05-2003 20:23									#17
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Guess what: Firaxis' webpage now has an entry for Conquests
http://www.firaxis.com/contact_gamefeedback.cfm

	21-05-2003 00:04									#18
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hehehehe

they must have been wondering how they could receive conquests-forms while their site didn't feature the conquests-option yet

	21-05-2003 04:47									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Guess what: Firaxis' webpage now has an entry for Conquests http://www.firaxis.com/contact_gamefeedback.cfm

hi ,

wow

Mark , this should be front page news

have a nice day

	03-06-2003 05:19									#20
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CyberShy The Spanish community supports to you.

	03-06-2003 05:29									#21
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Just want to drop in and say that we here in Canada, although a foreign country, get to enjoy the fruits of being included in the US region and we get our patches the same time as the Americans. I sometimes forget how lucky we are on this issue vis a vis our European friends.

This Petition has my sincerest support.

Last edited by dexters on 03-06-2003 at 05:35

	03-06-2003 05:45									#22
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The Chilean community (aka Me ) support this petition

	03-06-2003 07:22									#23
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"We" too

	03-06-2003 08:10									#24
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I have to agree that a worldwide system would be highly preferable given the fiasco with PTW.

	03-06-2003 15:56									#25
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Aren't Atari/Info Games French surley they should have done this already

	03-06-2003 17:14									#26
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Sent. Hope it works...

	03-06-2003 17:49									#27
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request sent; along with a few other small requests.

	03-06-2003 18:25									#28
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Added my contribution. Thanks for your idea.

	03-06-2003 21:39									#29
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CyberShy, very good idea

My contribution is sent to Firaxis

	04-06-2003 01:35									#30
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Sent mine too.